Left the body twice

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Left the body this morning/night after I got vibes. Exit was good, only problem was that I kept for some reason drag along my bed sheets..LOL its was a annoyance. Once I got far enuff away from the bed the bed sheets disappeared.

House was empty..no spirits,no entites, no nothing.. was bummed that no one was their. Ep ended after about 5 min or so. As soon as I got back to the bed, within second I got vibes again and the exit was so smooth and fast. This time I opened the patio door, forgot about my screen door..and just went outside. Flew up on the roof and walked of the edge into air.. I fell about 12 inches as I stepped off and then I just hung their effortless in the air. Instead of flying I layed down on the ground on my back and looked up at the stars in the sky. For some reason I thought if I looked up at a star maybe I would instantly get teleported their. LOL that did not happen. As I stood back up I saw a female entity.. I asked her can we have sex please? she said yes. I got excited with anticipation that its actually going to happen.. then the ep just ended without any signs or warning.. booo hooooo     The best part is that the experience makes me feel good all day. The effects of the ep seem to have some sort of lasting effect on the human body..maybe its left over energy, or just the thrill or self confidence that I can still do it... Keep trying guys and women.. if I can do it ..so can you!.

[astralm]

Cool experience, thanks for sharing!

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Thanks.. I don't share my experiences often. As a side note when I first learned to fly.. I would be so focused on staying or hovering in the air. I would try so hard to keep my body in the air. Now years later the first thing I do is a check..and that is jump in the air. If I stick in the air I am out of body..and you know what everytime I have done that check.. I have always floated. What I am trying to say is that as big or as little your experience is, you will always grow and learn.

LOL .. its almost like your brain can live in two different worlds.. one is the pshyical and the other the obe world. The thing is you can learn on both worlds. I learned as a kid to ride a tricycle.. in the obe world I learn how to fly..levitate..float..  I hang in the air so relaxed now.. So maybe you can say that in the pshyical world I learned balance of a bicycle over time. In the Ep I have learned flight..which is also blanace. Just you learn it in two worlds.

If anyone understands what I just wrote..you all get a karma point

[LightBeam]

I asked her can we have sex please?

At least you asked her nicely LOL. I also feel energized after APs and in a very good mood through out the day. My suggestion is to set a goal for next time and repeat it several times, that way as soon as you AP you will remember what your goal is and you can apply more intent to go places and experience interesting things.

[Greytraveller]

Allo LucidityMan
It is always enjoyable to read your posts, especially when you report a personal OBE. I can relate to the pleasure of out of body flight. Floating indoors is fun but flying outdoors is a blast!   Especially flying in a clear night sky! Words cannot do that experience justice.

Regards  
Grey

[EscapeVelocity]

This was a series of tests...you passed the first few, but got caught out by the sexual test. Welcome to the club! Lol

You managed a variation of two exits, then managed to go airborne in a very natural fashion, stepping off the roof...good OBE management!

This taught you some Non-Physical Personality awareness, which you have recognized very well. (It's almost like your brain can live in two different worlds). Yes! This is a huge revelation!

They will still hit you with the sex test from time to time, so I won't give you the answer to that; you have to figure it out for yourself...it is one of the first of many...you have already passed the first ones...you will figure out the current one...

Well done!

EV

[FuzzyQuills]

@Lucidityman: How fast can you fly?
One of my plans for when I master AP/OBE was to collaborate with a few others to make a hypersonic racetrack with similar techniques to how Astral Pulse Island was initially created. (I have a thread in Astral Chat detailing how such a track could exist! )

On a side-note, if you don't know what Astral Pulse Island is, there is some good threads in the Astral Pulse Island section that explain it. In fact, looking up 'Astral Pulse Island' on Google Images will give you an idea of how it was envisioned to exist.

And to top this off, those are some interesting experiences, especially the thing with the bed sheets, ha ha! In fact, after my first AP, I woke up and found my blanket had moved several inches off my bed. I wonder why...

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Allo, Greytraveller..  Maybe you can tell my why I am unable to leave the earths atmosphere. I can focus and really concentrate and get my ep body like way up there, but once near the edge of the earth, I get drawn back in a instant back to the ground.

Escape Velocity.. I already know the answer to the sex test..Twice    But I do agree that each time out that you do get tested and if you pass the tests that you will advance to more skilled or newer experiences. Hey I am just happy with what I got.

Fuzzy.. I never thought about how fast I can fly. It varies for me. Sometimes I can walk faster then fly..LOL other times I look at a distant roof top and poof I am their. In general my speed I would say is running speed. I mostly use flight because it covers my distance in a shorter amount of time. I if walk to my stop sign I have to follow the road. If I fly its just up and over the neighbores roof and I am their. Flight for me is fun, but its also for being efficient with the limited obe time I have.

Your astral race track sounds cool, sure its possible, but for me personally its not were my interest lie. Or that I can even do it. I don't ap I ep.

[Greytraveller]

LucidityMan
Perhaps you need to focus on a specific location. Thinking about a specific location to travel to, for instance the Moon, might work.
Yet to be honest I have the same problem and am unable to return to special ethereal locations that I have visited in past OBEs. So I really do not have any good answers. Try different methods and see what works.

Regards 
Grey 

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Grey, your response was good in that it made me think. I think my "intent" to go their is blocked by a boundary of " real life logic says you can't goto the moon" . As an example..I live in Ontario canaduh and in Toronto we have the CN tower. I can see the tower and I always for many years tried to fly their and just stand on top of the tv antenna. But even if I can see the tower as a point of focus, reference for flight, travel.. its still blocked.

So, I will do as you say..try different things.. and as for going back to special places out of body..ya its similar to a dream places.. you remember the place, but places seem to be a one shot, a go their once..and you can try to go back, but it wont happen. Same thing is with any entites you may see when out and about.. you see them once maybe twice if you are lucky.. and then you try to see them a 3rd time and ..I don't know..it just does not work that way for some reason. Maybe you can only visit a place once, or interact with a being once, because its teaching your mind to grow foreward in a different way then what we are used to learning on earth. LOL  May 8 and its actually hot out in Ontario.. wonders if Xanth is going to get his air condition going?

[Greytraveller]

LucidityMan
What you said makes a lot of sense. Yet it Is possible to deliberately go to a place when out of body. Some people Can do this at will. But none of those lucky people have ever explained How they do it. Or at least their methods have never worked for me.
So, if you do manage to make it to the Moon, then please post that experience here and tell us how you did it. 

Regards 
Grey

[Szaxx]

Once you're fully aware you can make yourself massive with a thought. The bigger things are physically in general the faster they go. Use a toy car compared to a real one.
No matter how fast you push the toy, its real speed is slower than walking.
Use this thought when increasing your size, so you are the size of the moon and a relative speed regarding fast is now the speed of light. Head outwards towards Saturn and expect to be there in seconds. Once you see it, increase your size more and speed up. Within 10 mins you'll be that far out everything in our universe will be a dot of light behind you if you look in that direction.
I used this method at 10 years of age so it may sound like its from a young mind, it was.
Today its just a thought, should the need arise to go anywhere physical universe related.
I don't seem to get the opportunity to do this nowadays.
Although Jupiter looked nice a year or so ago, I didn't quite make a full awareness transition on Europa. Its still in mind for the future.
Perhaps this helps a little.

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Thanks for your ideas, the recurring problem I have is that you guys leave the body through meditation. I ep ,.. so when I read make your body the size of the moon.. I thought okay, Szaxx logic makes sence..but how am I going going to make my self bigger. ? Am I going to learn a new command like using "clarity now!" . I know that my intention plays a large roll in what my obe boundaries are.. but I just can't or have not learned "thought" the "just think" you guys do. I have gone to the astral 4 times in my life , and I experienced the instant action of thinking a thought. Maybe its time for Lucidityman to upgrade himself into a Lucidityman 2.0 version. 

Like what I am stuck at is when I ep and go into my back yard and look at the stars.. I will look for a bright star..i will try and focus on it, try and imagine being their.. but you need to tell me how to think, what I should be thinking. For you its just think and go their.. for me its like a ..guess I will flap my arms like a bird and just go at a snails pace upward toward the planet. Maybe I am to immature in the ep to progress from using pshyical motion to navigate and once I graduate from the ep I will loose the training wheels and instead of using my arms for movement in the air.. I will use the mind instead.

[Szaxx]

OK, you're where I was at 4 or 5 years old. That's a long time ago lol.
A few simple questions...
Can you easily fly without the birdlike imitations we all start out doing?
How many speeds of traveling have you experienced? These can't be confused as they differ.
How long do your experiences appear to last while you're in them?


You may require more experiences. This will help you to let go of the physical world' laws of physics. They don't apply.

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Been a while since I wrote here.. just been digesting the info....

Yes I can fly without flapping my arms like a bird to move in the air. I call that flight.. "genie flight" I just think or lean in the direction I want to go in. The more downward I lean in the direction the faster I go their. Downward being from a standing up position in the air. It like my body is a joystick on a video game machine.

Speeds..hmmm.. I have to think.. in the astral speed it instant.. in the ep..speed. I would say slow but faster then running. 2 speeds ..hard to answer since it varies of my thought at the time of travel.

My ep's last anywhere from 1 minute (doh) to 45-50min .. another one that is hard to answer..since its hard to compare real time to ep time..time is just different when out of body.One ep can feel like its was 2 min. yet in real time it was way longer..so ep's last so long that I wonder if they will ever end. LOL

Your post made me think and that is a good thing. I am just going to keep doing what I do and logically I should progress foreward..

and thanks Szaxx  I am 45 years old and feel like a kid again. I know bad joke.

[RVX]

Overall interesting experience LM,

Do you consider you feel more energized after those three quarters of eps? (also ep = extrasensory perceptions??? )
I have never thought of giving this a try actually, but it sounds promising.

I mean, I've tryed what you are describing for 4 or 5 times a day, but only for 8minutes, just to neutralize things in my mind.

Now I mostly focus on hitting the sweet spot to finally OBE. But I never thought about my body being too tired to perform it, I guess I just never thought i'd need to be very wary..

[Trepkos]

This was a series of tests...

...

They will still hit you with the sex test from time to time,

Who's they?

[Subtle Traveler]

@L-Man

"LucidtyMan 2.0" - I like it! Learn, evolve and move forward.

btw, when you "ep", do you use commands such as "awareness now", clarity now" or (in the case of your example) "planet now!" ??  Buhlman mentions this technique frequently.

[Xanth]

Yes I can fly without flapping my arms like a bird to move in the air.

Oh man, yeah.  That was the only way I used to be able to fly.  Then one day, I just said screw it and rocketed off.
I still flap my arms once in a while, but 99% of the time, it's just FLY!

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Gee 601 people read this.. maybe I should be more carefull in what I write /wink

EP is short for Etheral Projection.. although your I like your meaning of Ep. Yes , once I have a ep and I pshyically wake up..i am full of energy that lasts all day.. nothing can during that time can bring my mood down. Some times after a obe I whistle.. Lucidity man never whistles.LOL so ya what ever energy the body used or uses and after it ends.. it seems to or the experience seems to leave a pshyical pool of energy behind..it seems to carry over from the obe into the real world.

"They" they are just beings that you will some time encounter in the obe world..get used to it. Nice people. Some of them are so f'n brainy I just be polite and say sorry I am not as advanced as you and I don't understand what you are saying. The "they" are entities. Don't be afraid of them. Learn from them.

Yes I use commands.. but not much anymore.. I used to use them so much because I felt like I had so much pressure to keep the obe going.. over time from doing it I learned, the brain learned.. to think, relax.. I have not used a command in a long time, but I still use them just to tweek it ..LOL..  or when you leave the body and the projection feels "drunk" "sloppy" I use commands to refocus.. to straighten the body out.. I use them as a tool.. I learned commands to make it do stuff from dreaming lucid.

All a command is a intention of a focused thought and having no dought that it will work.

Hey Xanth..what up?.. the obe experience is never the same..yet the brain learns from doing it , just like in real life.. the brain just learns being in a different environment. Like leaving the body is like being a baby again..LOL U have to learn what you already now how to do in everyday life, you know learn something new in a new place of exsistence all over again with starting out with baby steps..

I am toddler..   happy long weekend to the American people.

[powessy]

Hello Lucidityman

I have been experiencing obes and astral or ethereal projections since a child and I too am 45 years old. I have had thousands and thousands of experiences over my life time. I can obe in the veil this world and I can also ep within the minds within mine. when I first started to exit from my body I would just hover above myself and try to stay there as long as possible just holding onto the vibrations. I remember in those days I would tell myself to be as light as a feather so it seemed I would just float up to the ceiling like a feather. I started to understand why I could not move from away from myself and that was because of this feather thought. After that time I would say to move like a bird and when I got out of my body I would soar into the hallway and when I reached the wall at the end I just got pulled back in. I always started out in the veil and then when I got back to body I would ep or astral project into many different worlds. I never had people in my astral journeys till one year ago my experiences were ones with only me in them. I never use commands as the astral is like second nature to me, it was just teaching myself that I could be anything and take on any shape that I wanted to become.

thanks for sharing your experiences.

Powessy

[EscapeVelocity]

powessy-

At some point in your experiences you should have noticed the transition from what may be arguably described as etheric/RTZ experiences to more expansive, full-color experiences that some would label Phasing or Astral or Personal Astral; regardless of labels, the differences should be obvious. It is within these later experiences that we begin encountering other characters/beings and more complex situations. Initially these are likely dream characters or personal inventions (there are exceptions) they are recognizable by their almost mechanical reactions and speech, their blank facial expressions, the doll-like eyes, their meaningless or cryptic responses to our questions. Recognizing these differences and other subtleties within the experience are some of the lessons we are confronted with as we progress. As we move along this Consciousness Continuum, we steadily encounter more complex situations as well as more complex beings. Making the proper recognitions of who and what we are dealing with and what plane we are on is all part of the ongoing learning; it is quite amazing and quite the challenge!

You may be close to the point I was a couple years ago, where writing out and sharing my experiences here, opened me up to opinions and interpretations that I just could not have achieved on my own. It has helped greatly to advance my experiences.

Hope that gives some ideas to think on.

EV

[EscapeVelocity]

Trepkos-

"They" are the Guides, Instructors, Teachers, Angels...however you choose to define them, who are apparently observing our almost every step and setting up tests, simulations and evaluations...at least, it appears to me this way currently. This may include our Higher Self. At the early stages in our OBEs, such as the initial fear tests, the sexual tests, the confusion and fascination tests...maybe this "testing" is simply handled by a kind of underlying software program that a particular dimension utilizes.

Just my current provisional belief. Lol

[powessy]

Hello escapevelocity

I am 45 years old and have had hundreds of obes and astral projections per year over the last thirty or more years, you can do the math. When I obe I am in my room fully aware and then can morph into what ever I want or that I can imagine for only the few minutes I can remain out of body. When I reenter my body I will instantly move out into full astral experiences. My experiences fall into many categories many of which you may or may not have experienced before. I have been in full wire frame experiences and then animated experiences and then full astral or other worldly experiences all my experiences are in full color and in full three dimensional form. You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to those that you are interacting with or where you interacting with them at.   I hear voices 24/7 and these voices are the same voices I now experience in my dreams and these same environments as your astral, rtz etheric full colored experiences. I did these things when I was thirteen and have moved way beyond these things you are discussing here. Every soul has a treemend or the mind of the soul the part that holds all of our many life experiences. Within the treemend you can create worlds and entire dreamscapes as real as this world around you to ask questions in. All these experiences you are talking about here are inside the treemends not within the veil. If anything is out of position as you exit your body anything at all you are not obeing you are inside your treemend your memories of your room your memories of your house. Your mind sets the environment and you can change it just by thought. The soul can only be outside the body for several minutes before the body starts to shut down so obes are the same as ndes for me.  The plane you are on or trying to learn is within your own mind and it is your soul from many incarnations that has created the labyrinth you are trying to uncover. It takes a soul many life times to become itself within itself to understand the things it sees so try to see the things that are within your experiences and find the truths you have set aside for yourself. 


Just for more information that I have figured out but will take others sometime to come to realize is this. Only a set number of souls on earth can have these experiences all the time not drug induced. Only so many souls on earth were ever allowed to become something again and again, what I mean is all the other souls will die after death and only the ones that were chosen to become something will reincarnate. Now the souls that were allowed to reincarnate are taking souls within there treemend and allowing them to become something there for many times or reincarnations possibly even for the longevity of the host soul, you and me. The people you find in your experiences are these souls and they are lost and confused. Every time you reincarnate your treemend shuts down and you are reborn the lights just go out in your treemend. Years later you start to go through puberty and start to ask questions within yourself, your experiences begin and you start having astral experiences,obes, rtz, and all the other hocas pocas, the lights start to flicker in the treemend. For people that are abused they might find their minds sooner and may find their passengers at earlier times them most of the others. I can speak to these passengers of mine and I can experience their memories and dreams. The big problem with them being inside my treemend is their memories and my memories are all washed together so it is hard to decipher messages I have left for myself.

Powessy

[Tongo]

As I stood back up I saw a female entity.. I asked her can we have sex please? she said yes. I got excited with anticipation that its actually going to happen..

Dude you need to get out more. lol sorry I could not resist lol. It would be funny if it worked like this in the real world and could just ask a random woman for sex and she would agree with no questions at all lol.

I had a Q: did you have much of a perception of time whilst out there? or did it simply not exist? I am curious about this aspect of all OBE's. Well done by the way.