Is this it?

[yhickfoe]

Whilst sleeping today i experienced the strangest thing that genuinely scared me. I was having a dream that felt very strange, it wasn't visual at all- I could just see black.  In the dream I thought I was driving with my eyes closed very fast down a straight road- I started to think in the dream- "how can I drive with my eyes closed whereas some people struggle with the regular way?"

Straight after I was thinking this, i felt my body kind of swaying slightly to one side- I thought I was veering off the road and was going to crash.  Then the swaying turned into a all over shaking feeling that quickly got very violent and I felt as if I was having a violent seizure.  At that point I was getting scared and forced myself to wake up.The feeling stopped almost as soon as I woke up. Is this the start of an AP? The vibrations?

I have tried to AP before on and off for about a year- not serious practice though, I probably only tried 3 or so times with no success and no vibrations at all.  Ive never experienced anything like this before.

[yhickfoe]

Great!  

So do I just go to sleep and 'hope' that its going to happen again, because I didn't try and induce these vibrations.  Also- how long do they last and what happens after?

[Dean]

I've attempted a few projections lately (never have projected as yet) but wondered about the vibrations etc i am feeling and whether i'm on the right track.

when practicing projection i've been getting swaying (mainly in my head and neck). this is a good early sign i take it.

i was at a point where i was convincing myself that i (projected double) was in a different position than my physical body. my mind was finally loosening it's grip. i could feel both my projection and my physical body with equal awareness.

then felt this strange feeling and my thinking felt different momentarily but didn't really know what i was thinking. i felt myself sort of floating, sort of being pulled up and also down toward my feet. then i felt this energy rush come up the middle of my body from near my feet, then BANG! i got a jolt and my physical body was jolted upward. I was now definitely in physical and afterwards i was left with pleasant subtle sensations on my skin for a few minutes. No really strong sensations as some of you mention but one strong one that bought me straight into physical.

Don't know how far this is away from fully getting out. sounds like a little bit at least. i figure my energy body was not clear or well trained enough to handle the energy. do i just need to do more energy work cause i haven't really done much?

other thing. is it just practice with a kind of detachment (and relaxing them when you notice tightening) that keeps the muscles in your body form contracting when attempting to project?

Thx!

[yhickfoe]

is no one able to help me with this?  

[Blank]

gidday im new here see u all around

Yeah I had 2 experiences where i could hear i ringing in my ears and as i listened to it I would lift out of my body but it was pitch black, the second was I was outta my body and I was trying to get away it was pitch black this time as well but i just kept flying through the walls of my room

all you have to do is open you eyes, realise that your body is asleep and ur minds awake, your aware... dont be scared of what happened, you cant really come to harm unless you do somthing norty hope this helps  

[stephen~]

yhickfoe-

Falling asleep and projecting has got to be the easiest method of the lot that requires near 0% effort, but it's a bit hit and miss. If you want it to happen again you could try steering your mind in the direction of AP as you fall asleep. Think about it (AP), about what happened before, what those sways and vibes were like, what it felt like 'physically' and emotionally. You are trying to imprint it in your mind so it comes with you as you inevitably give in to sleep. As you fall asleep hopefully you will retain more consciousness than normal and notice these things occur again as you start to dream or shortly after. Go with it, rather than fight it. Nothing is going to harm you.

[yhickfoe]

yhickfoe-

Falling asleep and projecting has got to be the easiest method of the lot that requires near 0% effort, but it's a bit hit and miss. If you want it to happen again you could try steering your mind in the direction of AP as you fall asleep. Think about it (AP), about what happened before, what those sways and vibes were like, what it felt like 'physically' and emotionally. You are trying to imprint it in your mind so it comes with you as you inevitably give in to sleep. As you fall asleep hopefully you will retain more consciousness than normal and notice these things occur again as you start to dream or shortly after. Go with it, rather than fight it. Nothing is going to harm you.

Thanks for the advice Stephen . Also- I have purchased Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, do you know anything about this book? There is an awful lot of information in there and i don't know where to start, any advice would be most welcome.

Or perhaps I would be better off just trying to recreate the scenario which happened to me (feeling the vibes etc)?

[stephen~]

Astral Dynamics is highly regarded generally. It should make ideal bedtime reading, so you have the duel possibilities of learning a great deal, plus the act of reading about AP techniques/theories will serve the purpose I mentioned in my first post, namely that by actively thinking about projection it will help to imprint it into your mind and hopefully improve your success.

I don't actually own the book, but have read the online version. Just take it one step at a time, don't hurry, read and enjoy the journey - same with learning AP too. With new stuff I think it often takes several passes before it sinks in (if you are anything like me) so give yourself plenty of time.

[Dean]

yhickfoe,

where to start in A-Dynamics is up to you but abilities on concentrating the mind and stimulating the Energetic body (through NEW system) seem to be prerequistes for achieving consistant AP. so start with NEW and practice this as well as Projection techniques described later.

i have an AD workbook (nice accompanyment to Astral Dynamics) that i will ask if i am able to give to Astral pulse readers. problem is it is written by Brian A. Mercer co author of "Mastering AP" and i suspect forms the basis of M-AP, (though i haven't read it) so there may be issues with giving this away. but i will ask. Check the forum soon for reply

[yhickfoe]

yhickfoe,

where to start in A-Dynamics is up to you but abilities on concentrating the mind and stimulating the Energetic body (through NEW system) seem to be prerequistes for achieving consistant AP. so start with NEW and practice this as well as Projection techniques described later.

i have an AD workbook (nice accompanyment to Astral Dynamics) that i will ask if i am able to give to Astral pulse readers. problem is it is written by Brian A. Mercer co author of "Mastering AP" and i suspect forms the basis of M-AP, (though i haven't read it) so there may be issues with giving this away. but i will ask. Check the forum soon for reply

Thank you Dean for the advice, its much appreciated.  I'm going to give the NEW system a shot and see how it goes for a bit.  This AD workbook that you mention sounds like just what I'm looking for, so I hope you're able to give it away  

[Dean]

Thank you Dean for the advice, its much appreciated.  I'm going to give the NEW system a shot and see how it goes for a bit.  This AD workbook that you mention sounds like just what I'm looking for, so I hope you're able to give it away  

don't know if you've found it already but Brian replied about the AD workbook and wrote:

Dean,

Think of that Excel spread sheet, the companion workbook to Astral Dynamics, as Mastering Astral Projection version 1. Whereas, the book Mastering Astral Projection: 90-day Guide to Out-of-Body Experience is something like version 4 or 5 of the program and includes new techniques, methods and guides that aren't available in Astral Dynamics.

I originally created the Excel spread sheet to document an OBE program I mean to use solely for myself. When Robert asked that I share it on his website, I was happy to spruce it up with a minimal amount of instructions and references to AD.

The biggest difference in the two programs it that in my first version I try to implement everything all at once. The program isn't very progressive or easy to use and it assumes that users have read Astral Dynamics before using it.

MAP, on the other hand, is more progressive and logically structured. It was revised based on personal experience and working with several sets of road testers.

Feel free to pass out the spread sheet, but I would ask that you not charge anything for it. And if you could put in a bit about Mastering Astral Projection being available in bookstores & etc. when you give it away (or even put a link to how to order it in the spread sheet itself) that would be much appreciated. The important thing to tell people is that this is only a basic version and that the complete version can be found in Mastering Astral Projection.

Brian

so my email if you or others still want the free AD workbook is: beloveddk@hotmail.com

PS. pls add AD workbook to the email subject heading

alternatively check out your local bookstore or http://www.kaladrious.com/mastering_astral_projection.htm
to find Mastering Astral Projection. ISBN 0-73870-467-9

Cheers

[yhickfoe]

Just to let you know, I had my first successful OBE yesterday    

I once again had a nap in the daytime, this time with the intention to OBE.  I was having a dream and at somepoint slipped into a more conscious state, I thought to myself I would remember I was dreaming as I feel asleep. Well, i fell back asleep into the same dream and became lucid.  Immediately I began feeling the vibrations, I went with the flow and felt the top half of my body projecting- I then sort of flew to the other side of my room- stayed there for a bit- saw my body and then purposefully went back into my body then woke up!

I wanted to keep the OBE short as recommended in Astral Dynamics as to ensure I remembered it, and I'm pleased to say it worked!  

[Selski]

Hi yhickfoe

Excellent news - well done.  Napping in the day has been very successful for me also.

And congratulations on keeping it short - I find it so addictive being "out of body" that only once have I purposely got back in!    Luckily, I seem to have a good memory.

Here's to many more OBEs.

Sarah

[yhickfoe]

Thanks Sarah,

In my next OBE I'm going to try and stay out for longer and maybe pass threw a few walls!  Is it not necessary then for you to go back to your body? I heard/read that you wont remember anything if you don't go back on your own.

[Selski]

Well, there has only been one time when I deliberately re-entered my body.  

But I do have a good memory and when I am having an OBE, I tend to think to myself, "how on earth could I possibly forget this?" - that's how 'aware' I am.  

Trouble is, if you heard/read that you won't remember, and you believe it, you won't remember, lol!

It depends on your level of consciousness or awareness when you are out of body.  And the nice thing about it all?  If you don't remember any of it, what does it matter?  You will claim nothing happened.  

I've often been puzzled by people saying that they screwed up their first projection because they couldn't remember it - huh?  How does that work then?  

Simply go with the flow and a secret tip just for you - (when you are napping and you wake up, drift back to sleep, and if you wake up again, make yourself drift back again, and so on, and if you wake up again, force yourself back to the land of nod - you'll be amazed at what happens... oh, and don't tell everyone!)  

Sarah

[yhickfoe]

Well, there has only been one time when I deliberately re-entered my body.  

But I do have a good memory and when I am having an OBE, I tend to think to myself, "how on earth could I possibly forget this?" - that's how 'aware' I am.  

Trouble is, if you heard/read that you won't remember, and you believe it, you won't remember, lol!

It depends on your level of consciousness or awareness when you are out of body.  And the nice thing about it all?  If you don't remember any of it, what does it matter?  You will claim nothing happened.  

I've often been puzzled by people saying that they screwed up their first projection because they couldn't remember it - huh?  How does that work then?  

Simply go with the flow and a secret tip just for you - (when you are napping and you wake up, drift back to sleep, and if you wake up again, make yourself drift back again, and so on, and if you wake up again, force yourself back to the land of nod - you'll be amazed at what happens... oh, and don't tell everyone!)  

Sarah

Well in my OBE I wasn't that aware, certainly not like normal waking consciousness. Maybe in subsequent projections ill have a little more clarity.

You've got me thinking about that memory thing now! Ive never really thought of it like that- so I could have had loads of OBEs and just forgotten them!   lol

Oh, and thanks for the 'secret' tip Sarah, don't worry I'm good at keeping secrets- I wont let anyone know!   hehe

Edd