thats exactly what i was just thinking!
umm...i don't think that there is a place where You can find out the winning lottery numbers? Or if there are.. then you might tell me where to go.
yea they keep the winning numbers secret. i think it depends on what lottery it is.
I think there are others ways than seeings at Askhasic Record for to win lottery:
1 – Ouija Board.
2 – Pendulum Dowsing techniques.
3 – Telekynesis. Trying to drive ball movement at roulette through telekynesis from astral near-physical plane in coordination with a physical player at casino site. This third way is, I think, more effective than 1 and 2. At astral plane, traveler can gather energies and help from lower entities for to drive ball at roulette.
What do you think about this ideas..?
NEZabaleta
hmm sounds interesting..
but for Gwathren and is reply-umm...i don't think that there is a place where You can find out the winning lottery numbers? Or if there are.. then you might tell me where to go.
i mean when they anounce the winning numbers and you just try to remember them.
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i mean when they anounce the winning numbers and you just try to remember them.
Is there somewhere a guy who anounces the winning numbers?
It is possible to dowse for the winning lottory numbers but the answer will only be given to those with pure intent.
Yes, I think that we must to have a philantropic purpose in mind. Such knowledge, like Askhasic Records, cannot be accessed with trivial affaires in mind. Otherwise, like a boomerang, things can to become opposite to us, leading to material ruin.
NEZabaleta
There is a Woman by the name of Anne Varnes @www.astralvoyage.com
(a life long projector) who did win the lottery through asral projection, check out her story at her web site.
quietlight
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Originally posted by quietlight
There is a Woman by the name of Anne Varnes @www.astralvoyage.com
(a life long projector) who did win the lottery through asral projection, check out her story at her web site.
quietlight
You're right. And by the way, that site is very helpful and not only because of the winning-story. I got some nice info about remote viewing from there, check that out too.
Aaron C. Donahue used remote viewing a number of times to win the lottery, successfully.
OK, I'm on it
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It is possible to dowse for the winning lottory numbers but the answer will only be given to those with pure intent.
What can be pure or impure about getting the winning numbers...?
There is only one goal for asking for these numbers... getting the money. Now, are you talking about the purity of what you would do with this money...? Is buying a new house/car pure enough? Or do you have to give it all to charity? Who decides how pure it is?
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QuoteIs buying a new house/car pure enough? Or do you have to give it all to charity?
By the way, I like that question. Who says that charity is pure? Maybe helping an old lady across the street is much more "pure". I think there was something in Bible, that a beggar gave all he had, but he still gave more than a rich merchant who, in money, gave a fortune. So I think that giving away money after gaining a large amount of it might be considered as a bribe: "Oh God, take this back, but DON'T TOUCH MY NEW FORTUNE, ARGHHH..." So, I think winning with lottery is not well explained to us. Maybe it actually has something to do with chance?
I dont know what would be classed as pure intent, im only human. As for who decides if your intent is pure enough, that would be the people/things/entities/beings giving you the answer through the pendulum - obviously.
But I think its safe to say that anyone who has tried dowsing for lotto numbers hasnt had pure enough intent to get the answer, in my opinion no human beings has pure intent when it comes to winning millions.
Is ethical or unethical use our brain power for to study a profession and gain our lives..?
If there are persons with lower brain capability, that circunstance cannot drive myself into charge of guilty, and lead my life pathway to a poor condition, don't you..?
Then the use of my occult capabilities, is a mean of demonstrate common sense. The ethical or unethical of such a act of proper improvement of richness through remote viewing or astral travel or pendulum dowsing, can be calibrated through the ultimate consequences of such acts: "is for own vanity or hungry of money..?", or otherwise, "looking for the benefit of others..?" Only at death time one can decide if one proceed good or bad.
Robert Bruce has post yet your position about ethic (or loss of it) in the act of to watch in the private life of human beings at physical situation.
As a matter of fact, citizen life has the same quality than jungle life. There and here, the survival of the fittest, is always the main rule.
NEZabaleta
There actually are a man that can do that.
His name is Aaron Donahue.
He has prooved that he can do it aswell.
Facts on his site about it etc.
His website: http://ummo.cc/
wow,
last time i heard about lottery and obe some one said that obes should only be used for good or bad will come about you. Kinda weard but i took it seriece.
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Originally posted by LogoRat
His name is Aaron Donahue.
He has prooved that he can do it aswell.
Facts on his site about it etc.
This guy believes that all Christians should be killed, the eldery should be killed and used for manure, and that there is no life after death or reincarnation. In short, discount him as a reliable source.
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Originally posted by smooth
wow,
last time i heard about lottery and obe some one said that obes should only be used for good or bad will come about you. Kinda weard but i took it seriece.
Karma Law doesn't only apply to next life after this one; such a law can be applied in this life cicle, there are logical implications in such a way of appliance.
That's say, we don't must to wait to next life cicle for to have rewards or punishments according our good or evil acts, respectively.
Life laws has the purpose of teach us the sequels of our acts.
Otherwise, let's think,
¿ it's logical that an innocent children charge with the guilty and its effects of a former entity, years ago died..? Such an innocent children
¿what lesson would be able of to learn..?. He will cannot to evaluate the justice of punishment. He will cannot say:
"This is sequel of my evil acts. I wouldn't must to be used my occult abilities for evil purposes".
Then, that's logical that Karma Law must to be applied in the course of life cicle, where such an evil act was accomplished, and where sequels must to be evaluated by criminal person that breaks the law.
Otherwise, it would be cruel and unjust that an innocent creature will to charge with the sequels of evil acts done by other prior its birth.
Appliance of Karma Law in this life cycle, furthermore lead to an increases of our intrinsic value, that's say the valuable teachings derived from experiencies taking into account the positive experiences and the sequels of negative experiencies; sequels wich can become in positive experiences, after appliance of Karma Law.
Taking into account the latest, the lessons (through Karma Law, when applied) what are sequel of evil acts, becomes discredits in credits, cleaning us of guilty,
Once we learn the sequels of evil acts, we don't repeat them. We, Human Beings, have the virtue of learn from our mistakes. Then, appliance of Karma Law in the actual life cicle when damage is done is, clearly and logical, needed. Is question of common sense.
By other hand, "To give for To perceive" is another life law, closely related to Karma Law. We comes to life for to learn, laws and its effects teaches us, helping us to become each day better.
Now, if we abuses of the incredible power given by psychic abilities like OBE, I can understand that punishment would must to be a very true model,
specially when victim hasn't occult abilities like OBE and in reason of the
disloyal involved competition.
OBE gives us high power for to evil or for to good. Is our choice its mode of application, and hence, our only and excluyent responsibility. According to magnitude of done damage, the greater will be the punishment.
NEZabaleta
Blackstream: I know he is really religious in person and wants to create his own one.
But he still is a good remote viewer and he can get numbers from the future.
Just because he has some weird idea doesnt mean he cant get lotterynumbers.
I was not talking about his beliefs, only his ability to get numbers.
That was the topic.
According to Mayatnik doesn't ethical gather gains using pendulum dowsing techniques. But what about using PK for to alter movement of ball at roulette game.?
Natalia
I think the whole thing would be a miss use of any pshcycic ability,[xx(] beware, the more spiritual you become the less interested you become in material objects and money...then agin it depends on what you were giong to do with money?
My 2 cents!
Aaron C Donahue did not show individual predictions for lottery numbers on his site, like he claims to have. Instead, he listed a battery of possible combinations for the smallest one (pick 3 1-digit balls), at least 24 for each reading, but as many as 96. But that's not the real joke - this will make you laugh: He insists that he makes his entire living from winning the lottery, but has made a vow of poverty.
Isn't that rich?
Interesting notion we have here...
In that Robert Bruce has stated that one may come to realize such abilities as OBE and other psychic traits through the power of will and desire alone, it would seem to me that the way in which one uses those abilities would not be the deciding factor in whether or not the use was effective, or at all tending toward one's gain or loss in proficiency of said abilities.
On the other hand, it would seem that good intention might well be an opportune perspective in which light to utilize the ability in question, as it has been said that much more subtle levels and permissions (such as the Akashic libraries and the non-spatial realms)are best aquired through the expression of a loving design.
Thank you,
Stillwater
I've considered this before (and am still planning to plan on it) and I've found a couple of very large problems...
First would be actually getting the numbers- reality fluctuations make any kind of reading very difficult, and the numbers need to be exact. Furthermore, you have to be able to remember your projection well enough to keep those exact numbers in your head. You need to have some very good projection skills to get this to work out.
Second would be a problem that comes up in any kind of future-predicting: When you receive information from the future, you are changing the present to something that wasn't in the future you predicted, thereby changing what the future will actually turn out to be. In some cases this isn't a big deal, but with a lottery drawing you're talking about very randomized numbers. In my state, the drawing is done by a large cylinder full of balls bouncing around, and the very slightest shift in pressure would change the numbers. I think someone once made a Theory about this kind of Chaos. I would recommend trying your prediction as close to the drawing time as you can.
You don't have to hit the jackpot to make money, of course, but I wonder if you could get away winning in packages of a thousand at a time constantly without raising some eyebrows.
In my opinion, you can answer the ethical question from a spiritual perspective. As far as the creational texts say (see Genesis "In the Beginning, there was...", and The Song of Creation in the Rig-Veda)"Then was not non-existent nor existent - there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it...": In these two cases, there was nothing, then there was light. Both, as well as others, are very powerful expressions of pre-post creation. As I stated in an earlier post, if you could reduce all the atoms in the universe to their absolute elemental stuff, all that stuff could fit into a match box. The universe is held together by a thought. Whatever it was that removed the darkness {with light} is extending itself outward. This is demonstrates a desire to share. To share itself. We, as spiritual creatures, inherited its spritual DNA and, in a like manner, need to share. So to answer your ethical question, yes you must receive the gifts of the source - because it wants to share with you, as much as your vessel (soul) can handle. Its your job, then, to share the gifts with others. Don't receive for yourself alone. That's where people get into trouble (as you sow, so you shall reap). Channel the Light to others - but in the right (giving/sharing) consciousness. I think the Light wants to give us as much as we can receive. It us who hold back with self limiting questions "should I, could I). Get beyond the ego (earth guide only) and receive for the purposes of sharing! This physical universe is 1% of the 100%. Its temporary, a place to learn and evolve. What better way to evolve than to acknowledge the Light, recive its bounty, and in a similar manner, channel the energy to others?
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Originally posted by __--nezabaleta--__
Is ethical or unethical use our brain power for to study a profession and gain our lives..?
If there are persons with lower brain capability, that circunstance cannot drive myself into charge of guilty, and lead my life pathway to a poor condition, don't you..?
Then the use of my occult capabilities, is a mean of demonstrate common sense. The ethical or unethical of such a act of proper improvement of richness through remote viewing or astral travel or pendulum dowsing, can be calibrated through the ultimate consequences of such acts: "is for own vanity or hungry of money..?", or otherwise, "looking for the benefit of others..?" Only at death time one can decide if one proceed good or bad.
Robert Bruce has post yet your position about ethic (or loss of it) in the act of to watch in the private life of human beings at physical situation.
As a matter of fact, citizen life has the same quality than jungle life. There and here, the survival of the fittest, is always the main rule.
NEZabaleta
For some reason numbers are very easy to remember in dreams. Also, you could convert them to pictures by memo techniques.
Actually, (don't laugh!) I've made some lame attempts to win the lottery (perhaps 5-8) - without any success. Also, I have been speculate a lot about "event cones" and so on, and come to a conclusion similar to yours, Suigin. Not only time between prediction and draving is seems to be a factor, but also you have to maximalize your distance from the drawing place.
However, the most greater hindrance may come in a forms of regular dreams you can't control. Not only you'll tell about your attempts to your relatives but you'll "broadcast" your changed state in space and time modifliing the future even more than it can be possibe in awake without taking any movements.
You have to pay advance 2% of your av. lottery prize for this information (we will agree on payment method in PM).
Because we will rich...
people talk about going into the FUTURE IN OBE. cant people just look at the lottery and be rich.
It is apparantly very difficult to read writing or numbers using remote viewing. Also Tim Rifat stated in his book on remote viewing that it would be impossible to correctly remote-view the winning lottery numbers.
willy Sutphen has made a guided CD for this very purpose, I'd be interested in hearing if it's any good or not.
Yours 007
When I tried this (a couple of months ago) I tried to see the 6 numbers from our national lottery whilst LD/OBE. I got 6 numbers and put a £1 punt on the lottery. When I checked the results I found I was nowhere close, though I'd actually got 5 numbers from the Euromillions lottery which was drawn the same weekend. Apparently I bet on the wrong lottery! Worth a second try... but I guess I'll have to bet on both lotteries in the future! Hey they just announced the Euromillions lottery on TV as I sit here... maybe it's a sign!! :lol:
catmeow
Two years ago I tried using the new gateway program for this. I would go to focus 12, ask for tonights 6/49 numbers. I never saw numbers, always pictures.For example I would suddenly see a picture of six people running around a corner directly at me. I'd see this for what seemed like a half second. Then I was left trying to remember what I saw and how old they were. The most I ever got right was 4 numbers on several occassions. I finally gave it up.
catmeow, will you elaborate on your experience? I have tried viewing lottery numbers many times but the numbers keep changing. Sometimes they literally manifest as falling apart, upside-down, or spinning wildly.
The closest I ever came was when instead of viewing the numbers I viewed the "balls." I flew upwards from my bed and the balls came at me from below, 2 numbers from the Pick 3... I did not see the third one because I was so startled that they might actually be right. I checked the 2 numbers later and they were right (but not in order, which counts for the Pick 3).
Since then I've just been so nervous... I look for other ways to see the numbers, like on a bulletin board or a sign or something. I even asked people to speak it for me, heh, I even called the operator once and asked her. People tend not to be very cooperative! These other ways fail, in the manners I've described above.
I was trying this morning. A thought came to me, couldn't we try making the intention of writing the numbers on a paper and pinning it to your wall once they've been announced. Then, before they've been announced, you could project forward in time and read them off your wall?
Just a thought,
from 007
Telos, yes of course I'll elabroate... at the time I picked the numbers I simply "guessed" them just as we might do in normal waking life. At the time, in the LD, I clearly remember thinking "this is ridiculous... all I'm doing is just guessing like I would in normal life". So I was a bit disappointed with my "technique" so to speak and didn't think it would work. As you say we kind of expect the numbers to be "shown" to us in some way. My level of consciousness at the time was basically normal, so it just seemed like regular mental guesswork.
Anyway, when I returned to PWC I wrote the numbers down, even though they were well imprinted in my memory, but I wrote them down all the same. I picked 6 numbers because our lottery has 6 numbers. This was on Tuesday morning. So I bought a single ticket for Wednesday's draw and Saturdays draw. The wednesday draw was a miss. When I checked the teletext page for Saturday's draw that was a miss too, but on the same teletext page, they gave the numbers for Friday's Euromillions draw (which I'd never heard of).
5 of my 6 numbers matched the main 5 Euromillions numbers. I don't know how the Euromillions draw works, but there seem to be 5 main numbers and an extra two bonus numbers. I matched the 5 main numbers, so I guess that would have won something.
I thought it was significant even though it was the wrong lottery because I've tried our lottery a few times and never got anywhere like as close as this to winning anything!
I'm still very unhappy with my technique of just "guessing" and will experiment with some of the ideas you suggested, like getting numbers to reveal themselves... However, as you're probably aware, reading and observing whilst LD/OBE is troublesome. I can read things quite easily, but if I then re-read, the words (or numbers) will be different! I've experimented with this quite a lot, and it's fascinating. Like reading a street sign, looking away and then looking back again. The name changes every time. On one occasion I was watching a clock on the wall, and as I watched it, the hands suddenly jumped into a new position without warning. The clock was ticking away smoothly and then suddenly the hands would jump!
So if we choose our numbers by observing them, how do we know we've been shown the correct numbers?
Never the less I think it's worth experimenting with....! I lost interest in picking lottery numbers but this thread has rekindled my interest now....
catmeow
catmeow, thank you! That was fascinating. I never thought of simply "guessing" the numbers while in a dream state. That makes sense for many reasons to me, including the prospect that it would be easier to remember.
QuoteI thought it was significant even though it was the wrong lottery because I've tried our lottery a few times and never got anywhere like as close as this to winning anything!
Yes, I agree that it is significant. It would have been less significant, I think, if you had later seen these numbers in a lotto outside of your playable area, like in Asia or something. I find it hard to think that the Euromillions was not even overheard by you at some point in your life. If so, then it may be surfacing to your consciousness now, telling you that you should go for that fish instead.
QuoteHowever, as you're probably aware, reading and observing whilst LD/OBE is troublesome. I can read things quite easily, but if I then re-read, the words (or numbers) will be different!
Yes, exactly. That is why I am unhappy with my reading technique. It's quite unstable. It seems more fascinating to me to experiment by guessing, as you did, which I will now definitely do.
Either way, I'm glad we had this correspondence. I'll let you know of any successes. Until then I wouldn't mind bringing this subject back again sometime later and sharing any new or interesting results.
Hi Telos
Yeah I was being loose with the term "never heard of". I'm sure I've heard of the Euromillions lottery in the past, so I'm sure it was in my subconscious, but I've never paid any attention to it and didn't realise we could play the Euromillions here in the UK! It hadn't registered with me consciously. It was a genuine surprise to see the results of Euromillions along with our other lotteries...
We used to have one lottery here, but now we have at least three, they keep changing the names and they all have different rules, numbers of balls, bonus balls etc... My reaction to all of this is just to switch off... and Euromillions was just one more lottery to ignore. But I'll try to guess a few more numbers now and we can compare notes later... Trouble is guessing numbers usually spoils/curtails an opportunity for a great adventure!
catmeow
QuoteTrouble is guessing numbers usually spoils/curtails an opportunity for a great adventure!
You mean it prevents a good lucid dream adventure? Or life adventure?
That would be an LD adventure.... I could somehow cope with winning a huge amount of lottery money without it spoiling my life experience!
Ah, yes. Well, I couldn't tell at first!
You shouldn't worry about that, though. After you wake up and write the numbers down, I bet you'd drift right back into cool dream state.
QuoteOn one occasion I was watching a clock on the wall, and as I watched it, the hands suddenly jumped into a new position without warning. The clock was ticking away smoothly and then suddenly the hands would jump!
this is a little off topic but about the LD and watching a clock... once when i was in a lucid dream (and saying to myself "this can't be real....but it is") there was a grandfather clock and i was watching the hands spin backwards. it was krazy
hey if you could do the playing card experiment well couldn't you come up with a scheme using something similar to that to predict the winning numbers?
just a thought
007
I was browsing the search for Akashic records and came across this. I think a technique for winning the lottery might be getting your next door neighbor to write down the winning lottery numbers every week or whatever, and put them on his fridge or wall or whatever. Then, whenever you are ready, go take a look at his wall or fridge.
go to the future, in real-time zone, of where the lottery draw is.
memorise the numbers
wake up, use those numbers
= win????
1) Spiritual people are rarely obsessed with great riches.
2) If isn't your "fate" to win the lottery, believe me you won't, not if it isn't supposed to happen.
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3) I don't see anything about me being a lotto winner, but I am supposed to marry a well off, and well connected man. That's close enough for me!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
(I only hope he is not ugly and old.)
I had a dream the other day where I was in total darkness, and children's voices all around me were chanting numbers. It seemed like they were numbers said at random, but I saw them appear in sequence on a grey background that was in front of me... I remember only 3 of them, which I wrote down on my dream notebook.
I went to check against the lottery numbers a few days later, and the 3 numbers were right! I could have won 10 bucks if I had played that day :p
I don't think using psychic means to win the lottery is a bad thing, or that it's "bad karma," but there's just so much more to all this than material gain.
The potential for abuse with out of body experiences is big enough as it is... It's not wise to turn OBEs into a get rich quick scheme...
The method to find out the numbers is quite simple. Ask and you shall receive. There's nothing the spirit world won't tell you. Anyone with average-ish dream recall can simply ask for the numbers before going to sleep, and chances are they'll have a dream similar to that one I had.
Money is important but true riches come from within!
But a little money would be nice... :cool:
I could get ALL those spiritual books and CDs I want so badly,if I won a lottery! lol... :wink:
hey have you seen the site www.intuitivefortune.com
I'm quite tempted to try it - it might be a load of rubbish but you get a money back guarantee
I'm interested to see if the techniques can be applied to the lottery he seems to emphasize more on casinos etc
has anyone bought the package?
I try to use my clairvoyant abilities to pick Keno numbers. The most I've won is $10 so far, but I'm working on winning more.
I win some and lose some...I usually come out a bit ahead, or close to it (usually the latter). Don't know if that's typical or not...I almost always play 15 numbers...the most I've gotten is 8 out of 15.
I sometimes try to remote view the numbers; other times I wave my fingers over the numbers to find out which ones feel "hot." I literally get a burning sensation over some numbers (but not enough to be painful).
My intentions are always good. The way I usually play, the most I can win is $25000. I would use it to pay off my bills (I have about that in student loans alone). If I win more (lottery for example), I would pay off my expenses, give some to charity, and -- if I win enough to live off the rest of my life -- I would volunteer in my spare time.
It is possible to time travel in the astral. You would have to put a lot of energy into it, but you could stay near the physical plane and 'will' yourself to the time and place where they announce the winning numbers, and voila!