So I just started on a new medication called wellbutrin also known as Bupropion and last night the strangest thing happened to me. As I was sleeping I was awoken by a dream of rats coming up toward my bed. And then as I woke up and got up I was swinging my pillow at them. But then they dissipated and I realized it was a dream. As I was sitting up in bed I was relieved that it was just a dream. Then I laid back down and fell asleep. Then when I woke up later I couldn't tell if the whole thing was a lucid dream, astral projection or even a mix of sleep walking and real life. I was pretty lucid, and most of all the light was on next to me during the experience, which is never on at night, but that night the light was on. Things seemed stable once they actually stabilized turning the experience. I didn't even think I was astral projecting or lucid dreaming while it happened. Now things weren't as vivid as real life, but I was definitely cognizant of my own self and like I said the experience stabilized. The only thing that makes me think it might have been real or I was sleep walking was when I woke up my blankets were messed up, just like in the lucid dream/OBE. After I woke up I couldn't go back to sleep which is rare for me.
My theory is that it might have had an OBE when I was literally scared out of my body, but I didn't actually see my body sleeping while it happened.
Thoughts?
There is little doubt in my mind that the change in medication is what caused this to happen.
Sounds like a false awakening with reduced awareness which was dipping you into and out of sleep.
This would explain the rats and the bedsheets.
It's got me a few times over the years. I was convinced the covers were pulled off by something unsavory as they were on the floor after the wierd experience.
10 years later I was more alert and wiser when the next one manifested.
I can laugh now.
Hypnogogic imagery as you fall asleep, hypnopompic as you awaken. They sure can spice up a Sleep Paralysis episode or a False Awakening!
Plasma, I think you're right about the change in medication being the cause. Med changes often make for a few dreamy nights for me with unexpected visuals and situations. Cold and flu and feverish temperature makes for interesting but mostly uncontrollable episodes, as well. The odd, spicy morsel of food...I'm thinking Dickensian and possibly Dante...
The last ten years or so, I have a terrible time getting any sleep if I'm not at home; business trips, even vacations. After the first couple of sleepless nights, I'm so physically exhausted that any sleep afterwards is punctuated by some really crazy dreams. Just last week I was staying in a pretty posh hotel in a really comfy bed, still couldn't sleep fully and had a series of FAs with sensations I had never before experienced: one was a sensation of the bedsheets and comforter being infinitely heavy on my body, another was of the bedsheets or mattress being infinite in every direction...I fail to remember the other sensations I had but know they somehow involved this sense of "infiniteness" and the experiences were "designed" to somehow stretch my awareness...I was grateful for the experience but was just begging for some rest, lol.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on September 27, 2015, 03:06:16
The last ten years or so, I have a terrible time getting any sleep if I'm not at home; business trips, even vacations. After the first couple of sleepless nights, I'm so physically exhausted that any sleep afterwards is punctuated by some really crazy dreams. Just last week I was staying in a pretty posh hotel in a really comfy bed, still couldn't sleep fully and had a series of FAs with sensations I had never before experienced: one was a sensation of the bedsheets and comforter being infinitely heavy on my body, another was of the bedsheets or mattress being infinite in every direction...I fail to remember the other sensations I had but know they somehow involved this sense of "infiniteness" and the experiences were "designed" to somehow stretch my awareness...I was grateful for the experience but was just begging for some rest, lol.
First to Plasma. My wife had a problem that she had to take a prescription drug for. She was supposed to take this drug long term. But after one week she stopped taking them. I asked why and she told me she was remembering her Dreams and didn't like to. She has told me "You do what you do, but it's not me for". She wants to go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning without any recall of what happened in her Dreams. She just wants to close her eyes at night, wake up in the morning and begin the next day without any interruption.
EscapeVelocity I share your problem of not being able to sleep properly while away from my home staying in a Motel/Hotel. It wasn't always this way. My occupation for the last 32 years now has had me a regular with Motel/Hotel stays and I never had this problem in the past. Well not as bad as it is now. For the last year I haven't been able to get a good night sleep in any other room/bed but my own.
I have found myself out of body. Awoken many times in full SP. Sometimes I just quickly awake bewildered. My Dreams while away are completely bizarre too. It's like there is some kind of imprint of residual energy in there. I know the Art of projection makes us more aware in every aspect of that word. This is the first thing I can actually say I have found that is not a positive occurrence/effect of being more aware. Well, actually it's the second. The first would be "knowing" things about people that sometimes I prefer I didn't. :-(
On the list of positives and negatives of Astral Projection and it's effects in general, the positives still far outweigh the negatives. :-)
Two things. So a false awakening is where you think you woke up but your really in a dream?
And to Lumaza and EscapeVelocity you should really try some sleeping medicines. You often don't even need to get on a medication. There are over the counter things you can buy. Personally I really benefit from taking a couple of them in smaller doses. I usually sleep about 9 hours a night doing that. Though I think this new medication is causing me to loose my sleep so I will have to adjust but you's don't need wellbutrin. Check out the over the counter sleeping aids at your local Walgreens, CVS or whatever.
Lucid Projection Walking.
Quote from: Xanth on September 27, 2015, 17:25:52
Lucid Projection Walking.
So you actually this this was an OBE of some sort?
Yep, one that throws the best of us into some confusion. They are so real and at the time you only notice its not physical reality because of reality fluctuations.
It appears 100% genuine until something in it clicks as very wrong.
When this occurs its almost impossible to stay in the scene. You can rescript it but you wake before doing so.
Wow it's great to know that it was probably an OBE. I can see how some people could easily mistake this for just a vivid dream. There was a certain quality about it that make it seem like it wasn't a dream or even a lucid dream. In the end I don't think anyone of us can say with 100 percent certainty if it was real or not. But I think we can point to a likely direction.
You know I use to do a lot of exercises where I would move and try to project my consciousness around my body. Like imaging I was upside down. Then I stopped doing it for months, but then in a dream I dreamt that I fell backward out of a window, which is not a natural thing to do or think, so I know that those exercises had a lasting impression on my non-physical self, perhaps even to the point of causing this OBE.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 27, 2015, 21:25:50
So you actually this this was an OBE of some sort?
Ok, to qualify my earlier three word response... that was 100% a joke. Bad on me. :)
To seriously answer your question... you, like everyone else, use too many labels.
It's a projection. It's real simple... if you're ever experiencing a reality which you identify as not being this physical reality, it's a projection. It's a conscious projection.
An "unconscious" projection, then, would be what most people simply call a "dream". It's ALL a projection. All of it. :)
Simple eh?
Quote from: Xanth on September 28, 2015, 03:19:28
Ok, to qualify my earlier three word response... that was 100% a joke. Bad on me. :)
To seriously answer your question... you, like everyone else, use too many labels.
It's a projection. It's real simple... if you're ever experiencing a reality which you identify as not being this physical reality, it's a projection. It's a conscious projection.
An "unconscious" projection, then, would be what most people simply call a "dream". It's ALL a projection. All of it. :)
Simple eh?
I should have saw that one coming. I know you've talked about this before. Though Szaxx agreed it was a type of OBE.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 28, 2015, 04:36:00
I should have saw that one coming. I know you've talked about this before. Though Szaxx agreed it was a type of OBE.
Well yeah... for the complete and utter lack of me wanting to argue anything, yes, it's a "type" of OBE. Even though there is only really one "type", the type you're having right now. :)
Quote from: Xanth on September 28, 2015, 12:14:37
Well yeah... for the complete and utter lack of me wanting to argue anything, yes, it's a "type" of OBE. Even though there is only really one "type", the type you're having right now. :)
Very funny smarty paints. :-P
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on September 28, 2015, 16:44:22
Very funny smarty paints. :-P
LoL That time I was being serious!! :)
Quote from: Xanth on September 28, 2015, 18:27:35
LoL That time I was being serious!! :)
I know, and I was making a joke out of it. :-P
Xanth using 3 consecutive labels and you thought it serious?
ROFL.
Next an injured cow will jump over the moon and make it all red in colour like it did in the 80's.
Oh yeah, last night, doh.
I know! Right? :)
I don't even "walk". hehe
Quote from: Szaxx on September 28, 2015, 20:25:39
Xanth using 3 consecutive labels and you thought it serious?
ROFL.
Next an injured cow will jump over the moon and make it all red in colour like it did in the 80's.
Oh yeah, last night, doh.
And Szaxx is the winner of the biggest smarty paints comment in this thread. :-D