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[Opiate]

Hmm. I skimmed through the last couple paragraphs. Interesting stuff. Here is my suggestion. See your doctor, get these "abilties" checked out and make sure they are safe.

Im pretty sure your body isnt gonna let it hurt itself. I would experiment with these sensations, but as i said, just check with your doctor first to be safe heh.. then go off and try it while sleeping or whatever... if you think you have something, explore it.

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Opiate

Hmm. I skimmed through the last couple paragraphs. Interesting stuff. Here is my suggestion. See your doctor, get these "abilties" checked out and make sure they are safe.

I respectfully disagree with you here, Opiate.  From what I read, Draege's account seems to be completely harmless.  I have experienced these same types of energetic surges before.  Going to a doctor, in this case, would be pointless, in my opinion.

However, if he were to say that he gets these painful stabbing feelings in his head or something, then I may agree with your suggestion.  But we're simply talking about the ability to control energy fluctuations in your body.

[Draege]

I've been looking inside myself for answers my entire life.. Most of those I know, save for my very few closest friends, know me as just a semi-average guy. I've always been unable to express my ideas and beliefs to those outside my close group of friends as the world in general just isn't ready to understand many things.

I stumbled upon this site through random googling after seeing some metaphysics show on the Discovery channel that mentioned, among other things, the belief of kundalini (energy at the base of the spine, etc). This sparked my interest as many things described about this kundalini idea were things I was familiar with. My entire life I have been doing what is apparently known on this website as energy body work. Moving energy throughout the body, things like that. I've been trying odd things in my idle time. Focusing my eyesite in different ways on objects and light beams, focusing on the feelings in my body, and so on. Most particular is I've always had these ..odd abilities. I can, at any time, cause an unbelievable surge of energy throughout my entire body. It can often be so unbelievably strong that it causes me to jerk. Its like a flowing/tingling/electric feeling all in one, a very exhilarating feeling. After reading the New Energy Ways guide on the site I suppose it would best be described a full body storage circuit? I'm not sure.. The second 'odd' ability I have, however, I am very confused about. I first became aware of it very early in my life.. like elementary school days. It was a feeling I'd get when I would realize/remember something shocking, and at the smallest level it felt like an inward pushing sensation in the top middle of my chest encompasing what I've now learned are two major chakras (bottom of the sternum and the top middle of the chest). Its an odd sensation that can be controlled completely in intensity. Get ready for some really weird stuff.. When I will this sensation upon myself at the highest intensity it causes several things: First, every inch of my body feels as though there is a strong force pressing outwards of it (this force is strongest in the chest, and the strength of the force is dependent on how intensely I do this). Second, it causes the equivalent of a minor seizure- muscles randomly have tiny spasms all throughout my body (its harmless though). And third, (this is something I didn't realize till lately when I really focused on what the feeling when I do this) different locations in my body, with the chest area being the strongest, and including my brow, my naval area, the base of my spine, and the entire top half of my head (crown) all seem to 'flare' which is the best way I can describe it. I've found these spots are all major chakras in the body. Now, when I release the entire sensation, the outward pushing force in my entire body and the flare at my chakra spots all dissipate and this is normally accompanied by a massive massive version of that first odd ability I mentioned- a surge of energy. I've used this sensation at times as it is useful to wake me up or give me a little boost when I'm sleepy or physically tired. Ok pause on this subject for a moment..

I have been practicing OBEs at least once/twice and ocassionally 3 times a day since I found this site a couple weeks ago. The overall technique to OBEing has been very natural for me such as relaxing and imagining different projection methods. I have always had a problem with my breathing when doing things that require great mental focus as my breathing becomes concious. Making sure I conciously breathe interfers with whatever else I am trying to focus on, and holding my breath is obviously no good. However since I have been practicing OBE I am very happy that I have been able to almost completely fix this. I think its simply a mind over matter thing. As to my progress.. I have gotten what I believe are vibrations several times (though I get the feeling aspect of the vibrations, I do not hear any odd or loud sounds- does this matter?). I seem to get them about half the time I practice but thus far I have been unable to project. Though I honestly have no fear of it, and feel completely ready, when the vibrations come on I have trouble staying relaxed. I still have some problem keeping my breathing down when the vibrations come on, and then I begin focusing on relaxing the breathing and it ruins things. The vibrations come down and I'm back to the start. But I feel I'm getting closer.. I look forward to every OBE attempt I make. Most attepts have been made at night and although a few people have said don't try when your tired - it helps me. Although when I have too much going through my head I usually just give it up. I'll get my body relaxed but my mind keeps steering off into some random thought and its just too difficult when I'm unable to focus. I've been meaning to try just after waking up (inbetween conciousness).

Now, since I have been trying OBE and have grown to understand the experience of trying to reach the OBE, something has come to my attention. My 'odd ability' that I went into length about almost feels like.. its forcing my astral body out of my physical body. That is the best way I can now describe the feeling. As much as I have been doing this my entire life, and because it is very near the opposite of body relaxation, I know it would be likely impossible to actually achieve OBE through it and would likely cause a heart attack trying hard/long enough well before I'd reach a forced OBE. But the very idea of it is just.. strange. I can't think of any other explanation. I might be wrong, maybe someone else might have an idea as to what this is.

Ok to sum up this crazy long post, I want to say that this site has truly been a great boon to my life already. Many things I believed in, or believed in somewhat but was unsure of, have been confirmed or made clear for me here. I remain semi-skeptical to some things such as telekenesis, pyrokenesis, ki-balls [], but for the most part I remain open and curious. I do not know for certain if OBE is real, but I can try and I can hope and believe that one day that answer will come to me first hand. And if that day comes, I look forward to opening myself up to all the possibilities out there. Finally, I just want to say that some of the people ('kiddies') on this forum have some wild imaginations that I think they let get the best of them when it comes to some of this stuff []