I know meditation is supposed to relax you, even though it does it makes me unbelievably tired that I have to go to sleep for around 2 hours straight afterwards. I have definitely not got a sleep deficit as I sleep around 10 hours and I meditate about 2 hours after I wake up. It makes me so relaxed that I just want to fall asleep...is this normal? I feel that meditating is sort of hindering me.
When I meditate, I try to clear all of my conscious thoughts, purely focused on my breathing, sometimes counting, sometimes doing the 'balloon breathing' technique. Also I always do a mental falling technique to get into a trance state.
I meditate for around 20 minutes, once a day/every two days now.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/tiredness_and_exhaustion-t29019.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_energy_body_development/energy_development_problems-t25902.0.html
Quote from: Gbob on July 30, 2009, 09:42:47
I know meditation is supposed to relax you, even though it does it makes me unbelievably tired that I have to go to sleep for around 2 hours straight afterwards. I have definitely not got a sleep deficit as I sleep around 10 hours and I meditate about 2 hours after I wake up. It makes me so relaxed that I just want to fall asleep...is this normal? I feel that meditating is sort of hindering me.
When I meditate, I try to clear all of my conscious thoughts, purely focused on my breathing, sometimes counting, sometimes doing the 'balloon breathing' technique. Also I always do a mental falling technique to get into a trance state.
I meditate for around 20 minutes, once a day/every two days now.
Actually, it sounds funny... but you could have a sleep deficit BECAUSE you sleep 10 hours a day.
It's normal to feel very relaxed after a meditation session. No issues there.
You do have a choice though afterwards... get up and do stuff, or fall asleep.
I dunno about you, but sleep sounds wonder, especially right this very... second... *SNOOOOORES* >_>
Thank you very much guys!
I think I may also shorten my meditation duration, start off short and light and gradually build up.
How physically active are you?
Quote from: malganis on July 30, 2009, 17:28:26
How physically active are you?
I used to be very physically active, in rugby and tennis teams with a little athletics on the side. But I've given up sports to focus on music so I don't do any exercise anymore lol.
Do you suggest I do more exercise?
That's your answer right there.
Because one of the side effects of exercise is to energize you. So if you combine giving exercise up and taking up a discipline that may or may not mess with your sleep habits, you have instant tiredness.
So I would advise you to try to do something active during the day, and see what happens (and of course supplements, if they are indicated.)
Quote from: CFTraveler on July 30, 2009, 18:42:20
Because one of the side effects of exercise is to energize you. So if you combine giving exercise up and taking up a discipline that may or may not mess with your sleep habits, you have instant tiredness.
So I would advise you to try to do something active during the day, and see what happens (and of course supplements, if they are indicated.)
Oh I see. I didn't think physical exercise energized us, I thought it did the opposite.
While we do our metaphysical activities, you have to remember that you do own a PHYSICAL body that requires attention.
It needs a wide range of things to stay fit and healthy.
Balancing your physical self with your spiritual self will strengthen both beyond anything you could do working on just one or the other.
In Aikido, we were always taught that the mind follows the body and the body follows the mind.
They don't say "mind-body-spirit" for nuthin :)
Oh I see. Well I followed your advice and went for a 30 minute jog, boy have I not done any exercise for a long time lol. I will try and work it up to around an hour at some point.
hehe i did some aikido a while ago and kungfu.
im doing my workout every 2nd day where i also run for 30-45mins.
its totaly balancing for me. everyone should do it :)
As CFTraveller said physical exercise energizes you.
I wouldn't reccomend jogging as it's unwholesome in the long run. Walking and then doing some sprints is much healthier.
Posts from former Olympic Athlete Mark Sisson with back up by science:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/chronic-cardio/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/chronic-cardio-2/
QuoteThe benefits of low level aerobic work (walking, hiking, cycling, swimming):
- increases capillary network (blood vessels that supply the muscle cells with fuel and oxygen)
- increases muscle mitochondria
- increases production of fat-burning and fat-transporting enzymes
- more fun, because you can talk with a partner while doing it
The benefits of interval training (sprinting in short intense bursts)
- increases muscle fiber strength
- increases aerobic capacity (work ability)
- increases muscle mitochondria (the main energy production center in muscle)
- increases insulin sensitivity
- increases natural growth hormone production
The costs of chronic (repetitious) mid- and high-level aerobic work
- requires large amounts of dietary carbohydrates (SUGAR)
- decreases efficient fat metabolism
- increases stress hormone cortisol
- increases systemic inflammation
- increases oxidative damage (free radical production)
- boring!
Quote from: malganis on August 02, 2009, 06:54:03
As CFTraveller said physical exercise energizes you.
I wouldn't reccomend jogging as it's unwholesome in the long run. Walking and then doing some sprints is much healthier.
Posts from former Olympic Athlete Mark Sisson with back up by science:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/chronic-cardio/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/chronic-cardio-2/
Well I aim to only do it for 30 minutes around 3 times a week. This won't hurt will it? PLus I sort of want to get my fitness back...I feel really old nowadays...
Quote from: Gbob on August 02, 2009, 12:51:26
Well I aim to only do it for 30 minutes around 3 times a week. This won't hurt will it? PLus I sort of want to get my fitness back...I feel really old nowadays...
That's fine.
If you want faster and better results i would add interval sprinting.
QuoteKnowing what we know about our hunter-gatherer ancestors and the DNA blueprint, we would ideally devise an aerobics plan that would have us walking or hiking several hours a day to maximize our true fat-burning systems and then doing intermittent "life or death" sprints every few days to generate those growth spurts that create stronger, leaner muscle.
However, since allocating a few hours a day to this pursuit is impractical for most people, we can still create a plan that has a fair amount of low level aerobic movement, such as walking briskly, hiking, cycling at a moderate pace, etc a few times a week and keep it at under an hour. Then, we can add a few intense "interval" sessions, where we literally sprint (or cycle or do anything intensely) for 20, 30 or 40 seconds at a time all out, and do this once or twice a week.
If you are willing to try this new approach, but haven't sprinted for a while, you may want to ease into it. Start with maybe three or four the first time, resting two minutes in between and, after a few weeks of doing this, work your way up to a workout that includes six or eight all-out sprints after a brief warm-up. An easy few minutes of stretching afterwards and you've done more in less time than you could ever accomplish in a typical "80-85% Max Heart Rate" cardio" workout. That's exactly type of the plan I do myself and that I give all of my trainees now.Quote
Dynamic stretching before and after exercise not static.
It's just that I go jogging around my neighborhood block and if I do interval sprints I would look quite daft haha...that stuff is better for the track.
Quote from: Gbob on August 02, 2009, 19:21:06
It's just that I go jogging around my neighborhood block and if I do interval sprints I would look quite daft haha...that stuff is better for the track.
Worry less about how others think about you, and more about how *YOU* think about you. :)