CDs BWG and such!!!

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I might be using bwgen after my heart feels a little stronger (summer away from caffeine at school). But I'm going to be using it for lucid dreaming.

[quebec]

I would like to know from all of you who are users of any CDs (Monroe's institute or any other) or the BWG on your approach towards these.

For myself I have the BWG, the whole Gateway (wave I to VII) from TMI, the "deep meditation" and a few others.

Frankly I have had less success with all of those in getting the symptoms of OBE (vibrations etc...) than the traditionnal approach as in Astral Dynamic. Mind you, I haven't experience an OBE yet, but I'm working at the conventionnal approach (if I can call it that way), because I'm too disappointed with all of these "aids".

For exemple, when I first experience Focus 10 and Focus 12, the experience was fabulous. Heard myself snore at Focus 10 and felt this "expansion" of consciousness with Focus 12. The second and subsequent listening brought nothing.

Those of you who have had success with these, how do you use them?
Do you listen every day? Does the effect grow on you?  Do the continous listening increase your capacity to attain the Focus states? In short what is your training program?