A recent experience left me wondering

[Sam]

The other day I had an OBE, with no real intent to, but I am happy it occured.

Anyway, I will recount the experience, before I ask my questions of anyone with experience in these matters, since a few answers elude me.

As far as I can remember I went to bed as normal, did a little energy work (I normally do), and went to sleep seeing the hypnagogic images drifting in front of my eyes.  The usual pattern for these images is to impersonate faces of people I know, or people I sometimes don't, but I look into the eyes and they transform into evil looking faces, which usually yanks me out of that state (its the fear element, not quite conquered yet).  Anyway, this time, the faces did the whole evil thing, and I managed to ignore them.  They tryed scaring me with a few tricks, which didn't bother me.  I think I was too tired to react to their shenanigans.  I believe this is a big part of my OBE success, being able to ignore the images.

Next thing I remember after going to sleep is tearing out of my body (no vibrations, funny sounds, etc).  First, I woke up in the astral, lying where my physical body was, and rotated so I was facing down.  There was this black ball that was pulsating and looked like it was sentient, right in front of me.  I registered its presence then ignored it.  I remember feeling a little stuck in the abdomen, I felt as though something was draining me there so I focussed a large (large for me) burst of energy at the area and felt it loosening up then *pop* I was standing vertical above myself on the bed.  This didn't seem to surprise me, I took it all matter-of-factly.  Anyway the room was dark and felt cold, so I willed some light on the area and this took some effort too, but it worked, first it was a dull grey but it slowly got brighter.

Testing my re-discovered astral body, for some reason I flew straight at the wall, to see if I could go through it.  The wall was spongy, and I kept bouncing back out because my intellectual mind kept on trying to say "you can't really do this".  Stoopid brain, thinks it knows everything.

So, then, for some other strange reason, I then flew to the bed and tried to dive INTO the blankets, as if I could fly to the atomic level and look at the molecules and stuff all flying around.  Again my mind wouldn't let me, but I was very determined and kept on trying.  Eventually I could see this black vortex forming in the sheets, which began to look like a hyperspace tunnel, and fell into this blackness.  

While in this blackness things got very weird.  There were these other creatures there who didn't exactly seem friendly.  There was also these two pipes.  One of them seemed like a "way out", the other was spitting bombs out at me if I got too close.  For a while I tried to approach the bomb-spitting pipe to check it out, but decided it was safer to head down the other pipe, which I kind of got stuck in since I dove in head first.  I could feel the other creatures taunting me, and this is when the OBE ended.  What was weird about this segment of the OBE was that I could sense these things but couldn't actually "see" them, if I try to remember what things looked like, its like saying it was invisible, but at the same time it was a couple of pipes, one of which was spitting bombs.

The weird thing about this experience, and perhaps someone could shed some light, is why was I so determined to get "inside" my bed sheets???  Also, that bit about being in the space with the pipe and the bombs spins me out.  Has anyone ever attempted to fly into a solid object at a molecular level, and if so what have you seen?  Is it possible?

[Sam]

In hindsight I suppose my experience just sucked and had no bearing on anything whatsoever.

[Sam]

Maybe it was a reflection of my desire to find answers for everything, even if sometimes it is impossible.  I was definately lucid up until the whole diving into the bedsheets thing happened, at which point this kind of wacky determination took over.  So what you're saying is theres possible a subconscious link between what happened next and the way I'm living?

[Sam]

Thanks MT I will keep that in mind next time I have a successful OBE...  Maybe your right that I've been so focussed on breaking the OBE barrier that upon succeeding I was trying too hard to break another barrier which my mind had convinced me must be there, or something, and the effort expended sort of triggered a chain reaction of alice-in-wonderland effects.

Just a side note...  I used to actively try very hard to OBE with little success...  now I don't even think about it much and I'm getting more rewards.  Reverse psychology seems to be the trick for me in achieving OBE, not sure if this is a universal thing though.

[Agntneo]

Well I've flown into my pillow, the floor and excrement like that.
It became black every single time.

One very interesting experience was when I Astral Projected was when I was at my moms, I sat up in bed (in the astral) and got this urge to try to put my hand in the wall.

What happened is I couldn't put my hand through the wall, but when I put my hand on the wall it gave off sound and a strange light.

The light was like a light that came from my hand, illuminating blue see through. Awesome.... very trippy.

Unfortunatly that's the only trippy experience I've had so far.
I'm hoping to be able to manage to Astral Project more.