MONROE, BUHLMAN tapes/cds retreats

[lj114]

I would like to ask about the Gateway Exp. tapes/cds for starters.  Has anyone had much success with them.  I've been a fan of the late Robert Monroe for years---but not enough to spend 400 bucks on a set of tapes or I guess nowdays it's just cds.  From what I gather they are guided imagery and maybe music or background stuff.  Is the Hemi-sync stuff unheard like in sublingual media?  Other people are now selling some Hemi-sync stuff and Wm. Buhlman has some cds.  Are these products like the Carlton Sheets stuff???really expensive, neat to listen to, but not really able to deliver much?  Oh, btw I didn't have to pay for the Sheets stuff--it was given to me.  I do have an early tape of RM based on his 1st book.  I love to listen to his early accounts and he gives a sample of hemi-sync--which sounds like electricity running through motors in various patterns. 
Buhlman sounds interesting in interviews but his cds and retreats--like Monroe Ins. products are off the chart.  Has anyone been to any of the retreats?  What were they like?
Last but not least--does anyone know where or have tapes/cds that can be purchased for a Reasonable price.  Ebay had an item for about 85 dollars--still way to high in my opinion.  Or better yet a sharing thing like a lending library.  I knew a lady who had a brick and morter lending library and people fliocked to her to give her tapes, videos, and books--then she let everybody check out items.  Cool.

[Stookie]

CD's aren't necessary to learn AP. While they can be a tool to help guide you to one, in the end you're doing it on your own. If you're interested in the Gateway series, I suggest just buying Wave I if it's affordable for you. It's costs around $100 I think, but it's all you'll need. It's not magic, you don't put it on and immediately get results. You still have to work at it.

In reality, you don't have to spend any money to learn to AP. It comes from inside yourself, not books and tapes and seminars.

[lj114]

Yes, I know you don't have to have cds or anything to get out.  Most of my obs have been spontaneous.  I'm looking for input on the questions I asked just because I thought someone might know some stuff.  I've read alot of the methods on this site and there are some good ones.  I like gadgets and experimentation.  I have used willy Sutfen's video to RV and was totally successful.  Oh, btw anybody got a Frank's Box or used one?  I think it would be so interesting to check out.

[Sheena]

Hello,

William Buhlman's book, Beyond the Body was a GIGANTIC help for me seven years ago. Just follwing the techniques worked for me. Later on, I got his CD pack, Music for Out of Body travel which contains 2 cd's: The Power of Seven and Waves of Light.

The music is hypnotic and relaxing, but for some reason, it keeps me awake, and has not helped me astral project. It is just not my stlye, but may help someone else...

I will try to figure out how to up load it here on the site so you can down load it...but I don't how to do that right now. (?)

Anyway, it really is best to just develope your patience and discipline to follow through with the techniques.

That is the best way because you will find that you need patience and discipline to have rewarding astral travel experiences when you actualy get out, so you might as well develope those qualities now so that you can astral project in the first place.

All the Best to you,

~Sheena

[lj114]

Thank you Sheena.  You sound like me on the computer stuff.  Ha. I'm going to try to put a smiley here  Yea maybe I did it.