ASTRAL PROJECTION ART??????

[amcturbo]

Michael,
Do an internet search for "Ingo Swann" http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_cool.gif" border=0>

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann

[Tisha]

http://www.earthspirit.com/designer.html

click on Moira Ashleigh's design galleries, which are linked to this site.



Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Tisha]

oh one more thing - - I don't know if Moira speaks OBE.    She comes at things from a standpoing of "ritual space" and "magickal space" - - - - as this is her belief system.  But be certain that she' s been "out" - - - you can kinda tell from the pictures.



Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Tom]

Have you looked into the physics and mathematics of higher dimensions? They are not astral in nature, but physical. There are the three customary dimensions, and they are perpedicular to each other. So where are the higher dimensions, if they are perpendicular to the usual three and just as physical? Why can't we go into them as easily as moving left, right, up, down, forward, and backward? It is because the usual three dimensions are open to travel and the others are curled up so small that even subatomic particles cannot slip into them. Even so, there are people who study what shapes would be like if extended into higher physical dimensions. The point becomes a circle which becomes a sphere and then a hypersphere when extended. A line to a square to a cube to a hypercube. Getting to the point, we live in three physical dimensions. Three physical dimensions cannot contain shapes of four or five, just as trying to put a sphere into a plane gives only slices which increase or decrease as the sphere moves. The physicists and mathematicians have been very clever in creating three dimenional cross sections of higher dimensional shapes. Computer simulations have been very helpful. So far we of the physical three dimensions have not been able to directly view higher dimensional shapes. Our physical brains don't quite seem to be wired for it. The drawing books I have read all seem to start with trying to see objects as being composed of basic shapes: cubes, spheres, cones, and one or more which I've forgotten. My guess is that the astral body and mind are wired in a way to allow higher dimensional shapes than our three dimensions. Maybe the astral body can create hypercubes and hyperspheres. Can you imagine what sorts of art you could create with hypershapes, the way drawing uses three dimensional forms, if only you could be the first (or one of the first) to actually experience hypershapes directly?

[James S]

Ahh....that explains why I've never seen any pictures of a Teserat - it's a 4 dimensional rodent!

James S

- You don't choose the belief, the belief chooses you!

[lucid dancer]

I'm a professional artist, and I'm looking forward to documenting what I experience out there. That's a major goal of mine. Tom, you've really inspired me. I thought I was doing a good job illustrating, but that sounds like a challenge to me! I wish I could photograph what is out there to guide me. Oh well. I'll be persistant and try to remember my experiences!

[Tom]

It was a challenge which will require an enormous amount of energy. I said that the brain does not seem to be wired to accept higher dimensional shapes. The mind split is because it is not easy to have multiple sets of memories for the same time period, but it is still natural for us to have astral projection. What I'm suggesting is to try something which is not natural. Certainly it is possible to work with higher dimensional shapes from the astral body, but bringing back the results will result in nothing but shadows of the originals. There will be a great joy in accomplishing higher dimensional art, but can it be brought back to the physical to be shared?

[michael]

Anyone know a good site where i can see some examples of astral projection painitngs etc??I dabble in painting now and again and like to copy stuff for my own amusement..have come across a few good pics in books..but i would have thought theremight be sites showing OBE pics etc..anyone know of any by any chance????I have tried with little success....thanks...