I can't stay conscious

[snuggs8]

In the past month I have read a lot about OBE's. I've checked out websites and videos and read a couple books. After some trial and error I have developed a pretty decent method for getting to the vibrational stage. But every single time I begin to separate I lose consciousness and slip into a dream. Except I don't realize that it's a dream until I wake up. Does anyone have advice as to how I can retain my consciousness without my subconscious taking over and throwing me into another dream?wi

[Lionheart]

 Yes you need two things practice and willpower. Practice helps you to learn further how to control yourself at the point of losing consciousness. Willpower will help you with the desire to see it through.
Good Luck and Safe Travels! 

[predatoo]

  may i ask what is your method to reach the vibrational stage? are you attempting to project after being fully awake, or do you project when you wake in the morning? if you are fully awake first, then do you try the same separation technique every time? it may be worth trying to sit in the vibrational state and becoming a little more relaxed prior to using a separation technique, or perhaps just try different methods to separate.
  if you a meditating and trying to project during the day, it may be worth trying to separate, as soon as you wake up in the morning. this may yield different results, and then you will be more familiar with the OOB state, which you can use when you return to the direct attempts

[snuggs8]

For weeks I tried doing it when I went to bed. That yielded no results. A couple times I got to the vibrational stage by accident right when I woke up or when I woke in the middle of the night. So, for the past week I've been telling my subconscious to wake me in the middle of the night. Which, to my surprise, has actually been working. I don't think  it's a coincidence either as I normally sleep very well. Once I'm awake I'm usually pretty groggy. But my body and mind are completely relaxed. Then I try using the rope technique. Soon I feel the vibrations and energy filling my body and I hear a deafening wooshing sound. Then I feel as though I'm separating from my body. At this point I start dreaming that I'm having an OBE. I know it's a dream too. It's very cloudy and I have almost no control like I should. And other things happen that make it obvious that it's just a dream. I have had only one that may have been real. But I have almost no memory of it. I'm just going to keep trying. Eventually I should have one I hope.                                                                                   

[predatoo]

  you should read up on some more 'indirect techniques', having a few more methods up your sleeve may smooth the separation.. for example, i use imagery to get into to sound which gives me as stronger vibrations as the intensity of the noise. a method i have always found simple for calming the mind after separation is to jump as high as possible up through the roof, which also induces flying and is pretty crazy. a lot of people find flying calming, i think because most people childhood dreams of flying, even if they don't remember too clearly.
  another thing you could try is to go straight into some 'deepening techniques', like rubbing your hands together or blowing on them, to excite more sense. touching objects can be good as that can get you walking, just don't get too focused on one object, but try to physically and visually scan the room. another important thing is to at least keep a notepad and a pen by your bed. you never know when you may wake up and all of a sudden just be prepared to slip into a comfortable projection. you want to make sure you remember those experiences otherwise you will fall back asleep later and completely forget. of course, one day you'll get joy from the fact that you wrote down your first journeys into a new part of your brain, keep up with consistent practice and who knows what you'll be doing 10 years. you should check out obe4u.com, it details well a lot of good methods in all areas of projection, and its not too long...

Φ predatoo