Move things while obe?

[astral-boy]

Thanks for all answers. I will read them when i have time. To busy right now  [^]

[kerbe6]

Hahahaha. I havn't personally had any experience with this, but from what I hear it cant be done.  Everything physical has an astral self, and when you project, this is what you see.  You can move the astral part of the item, but this will not move the physical.

There was a post in this forum a while ago about someone that used some kind of oil to project, and she said she moved a glass of milk or something in the physical.  I'm not sure if this is true or not.

[astral-boy]

Oh interesting! Imagine the power people could have with that kind of skill. Not just stealing milk but walking inside the white house and move the important oil documents or destroy papers for smart nuke building inside pentagon.

[__--nezabaleta--__]

Hi, astralboy..!
I think your post as highly correct from a intuitively viewpoint.
If we are capable of to produce PK (psichokynesis) effects while we are inside our body, why not while we are outside our body..? We can assume we are more efficient when we are out at the time of to try and to induce such acts of PK.
By other hand, how do you explain poltergeist phenomenon..? If non-incarnated entities, (and possibly lower entities) can move objects, why not "higher entities" (relatively speaking) like us..?
NEZabaleta

[astral-boy]

Hi! Is it possible to move things in this world while we are out of body? To open the door, write on the computer, call on the phone or cook food.. Has anyone of you succeded with this? Perhaps we need to master telekinesi also?

Thank you

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