Is there a device that induces OOBEs or astral projection?

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kevin32

You may have heard about dream devices that you put on your face that helps induce lucid dreams. Are there any such devices that help induce OOBEs or astral projection? Or could the dream devices be used to achieve the same results?

AlanRK

Yes, you can even make something like this yourself. However it's far superior to train your mind to do it rather than to rely on external devices. I would never recommend using devices solely, but using them in conjunction with training your own abilities will be nice.

rem

id like to get one of those to aid my training... where can i get one? xD

AlanRK

As I understand it he was talking about masks that you put on which flash LED lights as you sleep. This might be effective, but really anything that disturbs and nudges you as you sleep is a potential lucid dream device. These will increase the likelihood of you waking up in a dream.

TofuAttack

well apparently a user, kurtykurt42, created one himself.

here's the thread http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_metaphysics/astral_projection_device-t30008.0.html

his posts are very interesting you should read them, imo he's one of if not the most experienced and knowledgable members on this site.

Xanth

Kevin,

Try this: http://educate-yourself.org/dc/orgonegenindex.shtml
Orgone Generators... apparently very good for this kind of work.

While they won't INDUCE an Astral Projection... like any other tool, you still need to do the bulk of the work, but it should definitely assist you.  :)

As for Kurt...
His ideas were... rather unorthodox. 
Not that that's a bad thing though... but he did give up on his "mind technology" for a reason.

personalreality

no, nothing that we are aware of will artificially induce a controlled projection.

drugs can throw you out of your body but it won't be controlled and it won't be what we tend to think of as an astral projection (though it would still technically be an OBE).

there are electronic devices and audio technologies that are meant to be able to assist in achieving a state of mind/body that is more conducive to projection.  but none of them will induce a projection with no effort on your part.

orgone (orgonite) generators are devices that can help you become more aware of your energy and in turn use that energy to assist projection.  kurtykurt was making a device that was similar to the concept of orgone generators and the like, though it was different.  we don't really know how far he was able to develop that device and there was a lot of dispute over the topic here on the forum.  Kurt claimed that he could use his device to help him increase his energetic frequency in order to project himself into higher densities of other realities.  his device did seem to require an understanding of projection experiences though as Kurt was an avid projector and i think he used those previously developed skills to make the device work.

bottom line, THERE IS NO QUICK FIX!  just suck it up and do the work.  if it takes 10 years, it takes 10 years.  don't take drugs, don't use artificial devices.  just learn how to work with your own body/mind and not only will you achieve projection but it will be more stable and controlled and you'll be able to do it whenever you want.
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