Have you ever been physically hurt or affected by an entity?

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missym

Okay so.

About a year and a half ago I played with a ouija board. I did a prayer and stated I was opening the doorway to the spirit world . I have Ben practicing AP or about 3 and a half years now and the experiences I had afterthis were really something else. I never believeda spirit could harm you while you were in your astral body but now I am not so sure.
The ouija board isn't work. The thing didn't move and I gave up after 15 minutes of no response . I didn't say anything to 'close the doorway' per se, I didn't think there was a need to since I had no response whatsoever.
Within a week my life changed. My son darted having nightmares that I couldn't wake him up out of, he alsostarted talking about the 'black man in mommys room'. I heard violently loud bangs on my walls in the middle of the night and m cat went into hidingfor days. Caught the shadow of a man in a picture I took. Well, I also had a few experiences. I kept having dreams of being sexually assaulted and when I would wake up I would feel an old mans hand on my thigh or stomach! The scariest was whenbi went ibo sleep paralysis. I saw demons flying around me saying something in different languages. I started asking for help from my higher self saying 'you cannot hurt me. I am strode than you. I ask for te assistance of my higher sel to help me come back to consciousness' the spirits laughed and closed my throat. It felt like I was being choked . I couldn't wake up and my head started rushing, they opened my throat again and I was pantig. I couldn't shake the SP they closed my throat 2 more times before I could wake up and when I woke up my throat was red n fingertips were numb, I was seeing black blotches from not getting enough air.
My question is if spirits cannot hurt you while in your astral form, why did this happen? I had 3 more experiences where spirits are trying to force me out of my body or force sex upon me while I was in SP. I have been APing for a long time and have never hadstuff. Like that happen . As soon as I asked for help from my higher self I was helped. Nothing was ever able to hurt me because I knew I was stronger than them.

So if that the case how did this happen :S
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Killa Rican

To the subject title question yes I have. I've had burning sensations throughout my body, whenever I chose to "ignore" them and the areas where I had these sensations would manifest as scratches and bruise marks. I've had inanimate objects such as A Glass cup and rocks thrown at me and my partner. -_-

Attacks like mine are not rare but are uncommon. As for "astral" or dream attacks, it's always been debatable. I never felt like I was being attacked during a dream or AP. But I can relate to the perception of being forced or grabbed "out" of your body. But I was never attacked, just taunted. In which case I would just taunt and argue back being provocative LOL.
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y question is if spirits cannot hurt you while in your astral form, why did this happen? I had 3 more experiences where spirits are trying to force me out of my body or force sex upon me while I was in SP. I have been APing for a long time and have never had stuff. Like that happen . As soon as I asked for help from my higher self I was helped. Nothing was ever able to hurt me because I knew I was stronger than them.

So if that the case how did this happen :S

It can happen. Spirits or entities with ill intent towards you for whatever reason it may be, will always or attempt find a way to disrupt, attack, or phase you. Whether it's by attacking your mind, visiting you in dreams, possibly physically attacking you, or altering the flow of your life in some manner, in which case most would perceive this as nothing more then "Bad luck" if they are unaware of what they have around them.

Your Higher self/Soul Will always be a great guide and protector during these times, there's little we understand about it's function or purpose under these situations and moments, as sometimes "IT" can even be overwhelmed.

I hope everything is well with you now and it hasn't continued at this point.
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice. ~Joseph Dunninger

rezaf

Yes, one night a being attacked me in a lucid dream and the next moment I was in a sleep paralysis. The room was dark and I couldn't see him clearly but I could fell his hand cutting through my solar plexus. Somehow I managed to wake myself up but the next day I had to go to hospital for an appendectomy  :-( This is one of the reasons I stopped practicing astral projection a few years ago and started practicing qigong and martial arts instead. I have heard that in Daoism they also practice astral projection at a high level(元神出竅yuan shen chu qiao) but they consider it dangerous before one has reached a certain level in opening up the meridians and gathering energy.

Edit: I have also been sexually assaulted by these beings a few times and it gives me an impression that wet dreams and many other kinds of dreams are caused by these entities to take our energy. The only difference is that astral travel practitioners are more aware of the situation.

Xanth

Quote from: rezaf on March 25, 2012, 11:28:23
Yes, one night a being attacked me in a lucid dream and the next moment I was in a sleep paralysis. The room was dark and I couldn't see him clearly but I could fell his hand cutting through my solar plexus. Somehow I managed to wake myself up but the next day I had to go to hospital for an appendectomy  :-( This is one of the reasons I stopped practicing astral projection a few years ago and started practicing qigong and martial arts instead. I have heard that in Daoism they also practice astral projection at a high level(元神出竅yuan shen chu qiao) but they consider it dangerous before one has reached a certain level in opening up the meridians and gathering energy.
Actually, that's just one interpretation of your experience.

Another would be that you were subconsciously warning yourself of the impending appendix problems by creating the scenario where someone "attacked" your solar plexus.

It's my experience that most of what we experience in Sleep Paralysis is a manifestation of our fears.  This would fit your experience perfectly.

In any case...
You've taking your interpretation, and without really understanding what was going on... used it as a fear based reaction to stop it... when in actuality, it COULD have been your subconscious mind trying to open yourself up more to the possibilities.  Instead, you took your interpretation and cut off all practices to the opposite of what your subconscious mind might have wanted.  Who knows really. 

Just food for thought.  :)

yondaime109


rezaf

I don't rule out your interpretation since I don't know any scientific methods to evaluate any of my experiences but as far as I am concerned it was vivid and clear enough to make me more cautious about practicing OBE. However after a long pause I think qigong/martial arts has made me strong enough to start practicing OBE again.