Excruciating brain-pain when attempting OBE

[manuel]

I think I have experienced some thing similar, the pain you experienced, was it almost like an electric shock? Its interesting to note that the pain was located at the back of your skull, perhaps your astral cord is there, I had a similar experience, I sat up out of my non physical body, and I noticed a cord was coming out the base of my astral head, it was 2 inches thick, solid and elastic like, it was like a tree roots wide at the base, and narrowing up to the cord, with dozens of little cords intertwined on it, to my curiosity, I gently gave it a tug, to my surprise a electric like shock was felt in my face and the base of astral head, for about 2 or so days, the back of my head was quite sore to the touch, like almost like it was bruised.

In one of Robert Monroe experiences, he goes to a friend's house and pinches a girl, the girl jumps up, besides the amazing fact that all of what he observed was correct, he left a bruise on the girl where he pinched! i think some thing is happening here with certain energies clashing that of the astral body and that of the physical, just a theory perhaps.

[__--nezabaleta--__]

Dear Targa:
I'll do an excerpt from online "Treatise on OBE"                 (from http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe_5.htm#10)

Very Important Note:

This dizzy feeling and any feelings of pressure or vertigo, etc, caused by your mental action of pulling on the ROPE MUST be carefully noted by you. Learn the EXACT mental action you are doing to cause this vertigo. You will have to train your mental climbing action to cause this feeling. So, the first few times you try this ROPE method, concentrate on finding the right mental action to do this. Once you learn what it is you are doing to cause this, and can recreate it at will, you are really starting to get somewhere.

IGNORE *ALL* SENSATION YOU FEEL DURING PROJECTION or it will distract you, break your concentration, and ruin your chances for projection. Concentrate on the single act of climbing your ROPE to the TOTAL exclusion of everything else. Put everything you have into this one action, but don't tense up, it must be all mental.

I recognizes that similar (blue light) sigthings I have. Frequently, if I open my eyes during rope pulling process I can see an extended light blue blinking (or blurring..?) spot.

Pains I'dont have experienced yet. Pains are referred by Bruce as normal and linked to energy movements, hence not physical. Then, don't worry about that. Simply pull the rope and IGNORE *ALL* SENSATION YOU FEEL DURING PROJECTION

Sincerely...
NEZabaleta

[Targa]

Yes, I read that also, but it's pretty difficult to ignore something that feels like someone is physically attempting to scoop your brain out of your skull with a dull spoon. []  I will try to ignore it if it happens again though.  Worth noting here that I did ignore it for several minutes, though it was extremely painful, and my astral body (during this time) refused to move from this "link" between my physical head and astral head.  It's almost as if Manuel's comments apply here; ie: The "cord connection" is happening at the back of the head, and while the rest of my astral body came loose easy enough, this part was "locked" in place.

Also interesting in my attempts is that at the very start of ROPE, I have always felt the sensation that I'm trying to rip my trachea from my throat!  This was mentioned by someone else in one of the articles on the main website here, and he stated that by turning his head slightly he avoided this sensation.  This does help, but not completely.  I guess I have to attribute that to the throat chakra, which I'm working on.  I find it intriguing that I actually have the physical sensation of someone trying to rip my trachea out of my neck.

[__--nezabaleta--__]

I think that extreme physical pain must be related to a improper chakra stimulation. Perhaps you are pulling the rope in a position that involves your crown chakra. Try by change its position and involve a lower chakra, like hearth or (ever lower) kundalini.
NEZabaleta

[__--nezabaleta--__]

Remember, too, that you are only a point of conciousness. Your astral form (unless you desire) don't have legs, arms,..., even head. The simpler is to assume the reality that you only are A POINT. Anyway, although you feel dizzy feelings in your arms and legs, such sensations don't means that from your physical leg (or arm) are detaching an astral leg (or arm), simply such a sensation means you are losing physical awareness from it. Try to forget that you are a lifeform with legs, arm, body, head and assume that you are only A POINT... I think this greatly will help you... and pull the rope at a position that involves a lower chakra.
NEZabaleta

[Targa]

Hi all.  I just tried to project (real-time) a little while ago.  For a while, I was trying the ROPE technique, and felt alot of different sensations, as well as a "loosening" of the astral body.  No success, even though I was at it for a long time, so I switched to the technique of using Awareness Hands to "lift" my astral body out of my physical body.  Lifted arms out, lifted legs out, lifted torso out, until my head was the only thing still inside my physical body.  This is where things got painful.  It felt like I was trying to carve my brain out of my skull with a shoehorn.  Bright white light in the back of my skull, and intense pain there (center-rear of head).  It was so painful that I had to give up.  However, it was something like "psychic pain" rather than a headache, because as soon as I stopped and "woke up" it went away.

Any ideas what might cause this?  It's worthy to note here that I probably depleted my energy severely during the first part, as I was at it for probably close to 45 mins or an hour.  I know Robert Bruce said if you don't succeed in the first 15 mins you probably won't OBE during that attempt.  Also, when I stopped (and assumed I was energy-depleted) I did some whole-body circuit energy-raising and DAMN!  I raised energy from feet>legs>spine>crown chakra then down to sub-navel storage, but as the energy reached my neck area and went up into my crown chakra I got huge head-rushes.  It felt like 5 gallons of blood was being forced up my neck arteries (though this was energy, not blood).  And when it hit my crown chakra my brain had a "white-out".

I don't know if anyone else can do this, but try this to see what I mean:  Squeeze your eyes shut, then try to tighten the muscles that would pull your ears forward toward your eyes.  This gives the sound of "blood rushing in your ears".  That's also what I got when doing the body-circuit (very heavily).  Any advice would be appreciated.