My first OBE last night!!

[BrianA]

Wow, congratulations man!!  That's really inspirational!!  

Now I want one too, lol.  I'll have to try out being more chill about it.

Brian

[manfred]

hi,

i hope this is the first of many obe's for you. )

Manfred

Manfred
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[Atlas]

I am jealous. maybe what I need to do is write a post saying how I dont think I'll ever have an obe, so here it is:

Sheesh, I dont think I'm ever going to have an OBE.

Keep your fingers crossed

[TimeWalker]

haha well hey if it works, go for it! =] but seriously i think a lot of people are doing the same thing i was and that was to think about it too much. I just let it happen and it did, All the other times i would always have this running commentary in the back of my mind, like "ok breath...ok now relax more..ok now this...now that" but once i just let my mind wonder and do what it naturally does, without falling asleep of course! hope this helps if not a little for some of you.

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[TimeWalker]

Well who woulda thought after just posting that i thought i would never OBE, i would have one last night Well let me describe how i got it and maybe it will help out some others who havent yet. Anyway i was at my GF's house, and we were doing the usual 'watch TV thing' and i decided to have a couple beers. Only 2. Anyway we both fell asleep on her bed at like 11pm. I woke up around 1:30ish am and decided to go downstairs and watch a little TV and maybe try to project. (since i know i wouldnt be able to with her laying next to me). Anyway i got tired with the crap thats on late night so i decided to project again. I went through the usual steps but this time i did something a little different. I took the advice of the response to one of my previous post, and decided to not try as hard. So i let myself get to the point where i could have easily went to sleep. Actually i did doze off a few times but for only a couple seconds. The one time i dozed off, i woke up because i was hearing this wha-wha pulsating sound in my ears. Then i started hearing these weird noises that i knew could not be coming from the room. I was a little confused but then i started feeling the vibrations so i knew what was happening. Even though there was a lot of pressure that i was feeling i knew that i had to do an exit technique. So i did the rope technique and immediately the vibrations increased and i felt like i was "outside myself" not realy far but i didnt feel like i was occupying the same space as my physical body, so i knew i was starting to project. Next thing i see is the TV through 1 eye (i didnt turn it off just turned the sound all the way down). I also felt really seperated. Like i was just floating like 6 inches from my body. So then i was like....OK NOW what...Then im like 'i know i'll just roll over' and just as i thought it, i found myself floating toward the floor. not fast just kinda like i was a leaf. I was sure i was gonna  go right through the floor...but i didnt Anyway i could see with my astral eyes, so i crawled over to the other couch. I wanted my asral vision so i could do a little exploring, so i took the advice of someone from the forum of astralsociety.com and just tried to open one eye. Wouldnt you guess that my PHYSICAL eye opened as i saw the TV! So i quickly shut it and i was back in my astral self. Whoa that was very very very strange. Im at 2 places at once! So i tried it again with my other eye. SAME THING! this time it took a second before i felt my consiousness transfer back to my astral. So now im thouroughly confused, and im laying there like all retarded, still wanting to be able to see badly. So im like ok screw it one more time, and this time with both eyes. Well of course i again opened both physical eyes but this time i felt this weird kinda surge and was fully awake. Well even though it only lasted about 5 minutes, it was a success and it confirmed to me that projecting is real and possible. So my advice to anyone who hasnt had an obe yet, it to keep trying! Try going to sleep and waking up at like 2am. Im convinced now that the main reason why i havent been able to project previously was that i havent been relaxed enough. I think you need to be slightly tired (i guess its easier when u first start out) So! Be relaxed..be a little tired..and dont try to hard..for ME = OBE. ok im done rambling. cya

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[pekle]

Really helpfull.. Ill get rid of my commentary ! Hes annoying!

[Targett]

I just want to point out that EVERY time i have got into the paralysis state it has happened all by itself, its been beyond my control. Im not saying give up on AP all together, what i mean is you need to create the supporting conditions then just relax and tajke it easy from there and trust that it will happen.

To be able to get anywhere you need to be in the state where you are just on the borderline of sleep and wakefulness where your brain is very relaxed and produces that calming relaxing feeling you get when you are just drifing off to sleep... that state is perfect.

CONTROLING and TRYING is STIMULATING YOUR BRAIN and to my experience you cant get into the paralysis state when your brain is stimulted.

When i pay close attention to the muscles in my  whole head when i get into the paralysis i notice all the muscles are complely relaxed

My adivce is wake up at 5am stay awake for about 5 mins then relax and take it easy and just drift in and out of consciousness for a hour or 2

For me, the best time to do this is in the morning. I find it better in the morning because my body is already very RELAXED and also REFRESHED.  If i try at night my body is exhausted and quickly goes into a deeper state of sleep that is required for SP.
So in the morning when i do drift back to sleep i can stay in the required light state for a long time because my body doesnt need to go into the deeper states of sleep

Instead of focusing all your energy into controling and being a commentator try focusing all your energy onto relaxing and managing to stay in that borderline state. Ive gathered from my experiences of sleeping paralysis that being in the right relaxed state is the most important thing.

[sunneysoul71]

Excellent, Time Walker!!!  

I am very happy for you. Have fun with your future projections!

Michael

[Nay]

Not even sure Time Walker is still a member.   Sometimes you have to look at the date on the first post, this was almost two years ago.  NOT that this isn't good info, just didn't want you to be expecting a response from him.

[sunneysoul71]

Oh lovely!

Two years ago, huh? He may be permanently astral for all we know.

Thanks for letting us know, Nay!  

Michael

[Nick]

Maybe all these replies will nudge TimeWalker back!  

[ARCHDRAGON]

i had some thing strange happen to me when I was doing chi gung. i was doing the movements as sifu said and suddenly my mind left and I became a dragon swimming in the stars, I could no longer see throughmy eyes and eventually I came back when we switched to a different movement.

[Nay]

Maybe all these replies will nudge TimeWalker back!  

Absolutely Nick!!  

Interesting Archdragon.  I can see by your nic you like dragons.

I had an interesting experience this morning.  I wasn't meaning to have a obe but non the less I had it.  I was waaaaaay up in the air, just a floating over a pretty descent sized river with a cement bridge.  While I was hovering above I was hearing a conversation..well, I was hearing one guy talking to someone else, but never heard the other person and I never saw him.

He was saying something about a woman (it felt like he had a connection to her either a sister, girlfriend..something like that)  and she had jumped in the river..I couldn't get the just of what he was saying but it seemed like he thought she had killed herself.  

Next thing I know, I'm whooshing down into the water and I'm now...... her or at least being shown physically what she had gone through.   She didn't kill herself at all but lost her footing.  She was right next to the bank, infact I tried to grab it on my way down.  

I believe I would have learned more about this situation but as usual, my four year old woke me up.  He was attacking the cat with his new battery operated tooth brush.  Poor kitty..

Nay