my first projection, simple and life changing.

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thefarture

A month ago I sat up out of my body. first time for me. haven't done it again since. I still can't believe its real, and I'm spending most of my waking time either telling people about it or studying about it, or doing other related mind work. I have a good bit of responsibilities during the day so its tough, but pretty much all my free time goes to this. I'm just super excited and happy that I have personal evidence of the non-physical world. I also feel relieved about the after death situation now. I'm just all around stoked. my hope is for everyone to experience it, and I'm working on achieving it again. I wanna be part of a community of projectors, and this seemed like a good one. so heres what happened/how I did it.

so it was just this average night, I was sleeping in my bed, it was like 4am. I remember I had come out of a dream, and i was just looking at darkness, basically awake looking at the back of my eyelids. very conscious that I was laying in my bed. I couldn't feel any body sensations though. and then it occurred to me to make an attempt at pulling out of my body. just whimsical thought, but the vibrations kicked in, and I got excited, cause I knew that was the ticket. those vibrations are uncomfortable like nails on chalkboard except the inside of my body! anyways I just like, sat up real quick, in a jerk, pulling out. I mean I really felt the separation happen, like 2 magnets being pulled apart. then I was like whoaahh! it worked!! I could see my foot in the bed, like glowing white a little bit, and the air was hazy and dark bluish. oh and my crotch was still stuck in place. I can remember trying pull it out but it felt locked in and I was worried about "ripping it out." weird feeling. then all the sudden I snapped back into my body.

I've been doin a little happy dance ever since.
the farture is farther than the future. duh!!

Lionheart

#1
 Congratulations, it's great to here successful OBE stories. Now you can go further with this and find out what it is you have to learn. The involuntary OBE's kept happening to me until I finally got the hint. It took awhile because I am stubborn, but once I did and I started Phasing regularly my life changed quite a bit. Especially my vision.
Safe Travels! :-)

astralp

congratulations.  I felt similar when i had my first one.  I couldnt believe it was real.  Welcome to the journey of exploring your consciousness. 
"turf off your mind relax and float down stream.  it is not dying."-The Beatles

Gummage

Quote from: thefarture on August 21, 2011, 23:39:43
A month ago I sat up out of my body. first time for me. haven't done it again since. I still can't believe its real, and I'm spending most of my waking time either telling people about it or studying about it, or doing other related mind work. I have a good bit of responsibilities during the day so its tough, but pretty much all my free time goes to this. I'm just super excited and happy that I have personal evidence of the non-physical world. I also feel relieved about the after death situation now. I'm just all around stoked. my hope is for everyone to experience it, and I'm working on achieving it again. I wanna be part of a community of projectors, and this seemed like a good one. so heres what happened/how I did it.

so it was just this average night, I was sleeping in my bed, it was like 4am. I remember I had come out of a dream, and i was just looking at darkness, basically awake looking at the back of my eyelids. very conscious that I was laying in my bed. I couldn't feel any body sensations though. and then it occurred to me to make an attempt at pulling out of my body. just whimsical thought, but the vibrations kicked in, and I got excited, cause I knew that was the ticket. those vibrations are uncomfortable like nails on chalkboard except the inside of my body! anyways I just like, sat up real quick, in a jerk, pulling out. I mean I really felt the separation happen, like 2 magnets being pulled apart. then I was like whoaahh! it worked!! I could see my foot in the bed, like glowing white a little bit, and the air was hazy and dark bluish. oh and my crotch was still stuck in place. I can remember trying pull it out but it felt locked in and I was worried about "ripping it out." weird feeling. then all the sudden I snapped back into my body.

I've been doin a little happy dance ever since.

Grrr just don't post here anymore ok? go away! lol joke. (jealous) haha

Boom

Interesting really.
Having had a few OBES and an a couple of Astral Projections, it hasnt really proven anything to me in regards to any life after death, or even the existence of other planes of reality that are non physical. It could have all just been strong dreams.
Either way.... there is something here to learn and to discover more. Now if only it was possible to invoke an AP easilly so I could get the answers. 6+ months of doing it and only 4 experiences means ill probably be dead by the time i get the answers i need :D

Summerlander

I agree with you Boom.  There is no proof whatsoever that there is life after death.  OOBEs and lucid dreams certainly aren't proof because they are subject to being alive.  The non-physical realm that people perceive once they are in the phase state doesn't have to be objective just because it appears to be so...

Personally, I don't think it's wise to so readily dismiss the fact that our perception of the external world is a mind construct, a translation/interpretation of signals by our brain.  Likewise, the perception of dream and OOBE realities happen within the mind.

Either the phase occurs in another plane of existence or it is "active imagination" (see Carl Jung) with its roots in the subconscious mind and synaptic connections in the brain.

Have a look at this link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2737577/figure/F4/

It appears that the phase is a hybrid state between the waking and the dream state...




Greytraveller

Hallo thefarture
Congrats on your experience. Getting part of the astral body stuck inside the physical body is quite common. (This has happened to me on many occasions.  :?) Next time it might be best to fully reintegrate the astral and physical bodies and then attempt the 'roll out' method. Here you simply attempt (a mental not physical attempt) to roll the astral body out and away from the physical body. This usually works for most people.

Cheers
Grey

SirMike

Um, I'm new to astral projections but I have heard that if you do the teleport method, you will land in that area without getting stuck in your body. Just think of the room next to you and imagine picking up a object in it, think of the textures on it, and how cold/hot it is and think as if you are moving around in first person (meaning like you see through your eyes, like you do regularly) and this will either invoke you to teleport your astral body there or just float above your body and you will be conscious about it. Do not take my word for it, I have never projected but its something I have been reading up on for a while now, doesn't hurt to try  8-)

thefarture

thanks for all the responses! I am very happy to have feedback. like I said, I'm pretty much obsessed with making this happen again, now that I know it's real.

then again, what is real? how do you define real? (sound familiar? I've seen the matrix way to many times) I certainly am not so bullheaded to dismiss other possibilities. I am a servant of truth. I try to be, anyhow! I perhaps really just want it to be real. by real I mean of course that the world I witness outside the phys. body is the same as the one as seen inside the phys. body.

in other words I'm greedy for omniscience. I'll settle for finite knowledge though, long as it seems like its omniscience.

at any rate, no truth could take away from the sheer interest it sparks in me. ooooohhh yeah.
the farture is farther than the future. duh!!

light487

From what I understand.. there are many "lessons" to learn in projecting.. and we are all at different stages and no one's experiences are entirely the same nor take the same path.. We each start out with our individual "take" or "world view" and then must overcome a lot of preconceived ideas about what we expect. So there is no right or wrong.. just experience. And remember, there's a first time for everything as well as anything is possible.

SirMike

Quote from: light487 on August 24, 2011, 23:55:39
From what I understand.. there are many "lessons" to learn in projecting.. and we are all at different stages and no one's experiences are entirely the same nor take the same path.. We each start out with our individual "take" or "world view" and then must overcome a lot of preconceived ideas about what we expect. So there is no right or wrong.. just experience. And remember, there's a first time for everything as well as anything is possible.


Correct! Do not be afraid to embrace something new!  :-)

justin35ll


angel_o_demonio

My first obe was 4 years ago.  I was about to go to the mall, and my friend was moving my car into his garage.  I laid down, not sure what happened but i stood up and everything was different.  I started to get a bad feeling.  I checked my pulse and I had one, I remember I kept checking it.  My mom called, and I didn't know how to speak or answer questions.  I heard my own voice in my head, giving me the answers to each thing she asked or said, which was extremely freaky!  My friend is flipping out of course because I am.  I keep walking around.  I sit down on the couch, he gets me something to drink.  I'm able to drink it but I'm afraid of what's in it. (btw, i had been smoking :) but I had been for awhile and nothing like this has ever happened).  I started to see the room in thin lines and pixels, kind of like an etch a sketch, the lines were moving up and down.  I would talk a lot of what I saw to my friend, and then it seems like I would go quiet for like 20 minutes.  It felt like 7-8 hours of things happening.  I kept trying to fall asleep and wake up completely, but I couldn't wake up.  I remember looking at him and his face would change.  I posted this somewhere else but I remember kind of coming out of it.  I was hallucinating, I kept getting caught in large spiderwebs and I looked and felt ridiculous trying to get out of them lol.  During this, a voice was created in my head and it stayed with me for about a year and it kinda just "left" on it's own.  It kept telling me to hurt people and myself.  I didn't hurt anyone but me. 

I have Bipolar Disorder and I don't know if maybe this has anything to do with it?  My doctor now says I have psychosis, but I don't believe I do.  I was really into crystals and stones at the time and some of them, especially moldavite, were very powerful and I could see things or believe I could do things others couldn't.  When I got away from them, I was ok.  I think that maybe I didn't know how to control them.  Now I have them all out again, and hopefully I can get a better handle on them :)

Thanks for reading

Heather
If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? - Alice

Orion-

Quote from: angel_o_demonio on August 28, 2011, 03:15:08
My first obe was 4 years ago.  I was about to go to the mall, and my friend was moving my car into his garage.  I laid down, not sure what happened but i stood up and everything was different.  I started to get a bad feeling.  I checked my pulse and I had one, I remember I kept checking it.  My mom called, and I didn't know how to speak or answer questions.  I heard my own voice in my head, giving me the answers to each thing she asked or said, which was extremely freaky!  My friend is flipping out of course because I am.  I keep walking around.  I sit down on the couch, he gets me something to drink.  I'm able to drink it but I'm afraid of what's in it. (btw, i had been smoking :) but I had been for awhile and nothing like this has ever happened).  I started to see the room in thin lines and pixels, kind of like an etch a sketch, the lines were moving up and down.  I would talk a lot of what I saw to my friend, and then it seems like I would go quiet for like 20 minutes.  It felt like 7-8 hours of things happening.  I kept trying to fall asleep and wake up completely, but I couldn't wake up.  I remember looking at him and his face would change.  I posted this somewhere else but I remember kind of coming out of it.  I was hallucinating, I kept getting caught in large spiderwebs and I looked and felt ridiculous trying to get out of them lol.  During this, a voice was created in my head and it stayed with me for about a year and it kinda just "left" on it's own.  It kept telling me to hurt people and myself.  I didn't hurt anyone but me. 

I have Bipolar Disorder and I don't know if maybe this has anything to do with it?  My doctor now says I have psychosis, but I don't believe I do.  I was really into crystals and stones at the time and some of them, especially moldavite, were very powerful and I could see things or believe I could do things others couldn't.  When I got away from them, I was ok.  I think that maybe I didn't know how to control them.  Now I have them all out again, and hopefully I can get a better handle on them :)

Thanks for reading

Heather
Personally I don't believe in things like bipolar disorder. If a voice in your head tells you to hurt yourself and others then that obviously isn't good, but I see it as a barrier. We are here to learn, and we make those barriers so we can learn. It looks like you did quite a good job because it went away. If it ever comes back, I think you should realize it's just something silly and it will go away if you don't want it to be there.

The spiderwebs can be a symbol for these problems you need to deal with. Your experience might mean that you were, at least at that point in time, dealing with some problems in the wrong way, allowing those problems to trap you.

If you ever have another experience like this, or voices in your head you don't want to hear, just know that you can fix them without any effort. You have full control but in order to have full control you need to know that you have this control.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

To light one candle is more effective than cursing the darkness.

angel_o_demonio

I'm starting to not believe in bipolar disorder myself and I feel like the meds I take are seriously blocking me from having regular projections like everyone else.  I feel like the way I was before them was me experiencing what I needed to experience and I was just scared really.  Doctors tell you that you are feeling or you are a certain way and you start to believe it. I don't mean to take this away from the main topic at all but I'm not sure what the next step would be so i can start to have more projections that come naturally to me.  Thank you for responding to my post!  It was one of the most amazing experiences (though scary), but my other experiences that are up there with it are all the lucid dreams and sleep paralyses I experience.  :-D

Heather
If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? - Alice

light487

While we are indeed more than just a physical body, the needs of the physical body are still just as important as those of the other "bodies" or "awarenesses". Part of the physiology of the brain is the mixture and reactions with chemicals that relate to its functioning. When these mixtures and reactions are out of balance, something needs to be done to correct the imbalance. Whether this is through the use of chemical drugs or meditation or whatever, the need is the same. While you may not believe in the "full definition" of bi-polar disorder or other mental disorders, the fact remains that they exist in various forms and to various degrees. Just like a stroke victim has trouble interpretting and translating both incoming and outgoing information, someone with a severe imbalance can have similar problems.

If you feel the drugs you are taking have side-effects which you dislike, you should talk with your doctor/therapist about them and your changing condition;

thefarture

Quote from: angel_o_demonio on August 28, 2011, 03:15:08
My first obe was 4 years ago.  I was about to go to the mall, and my friend was moving my car into his garage.  I laid down, not sure what happened but i stood up and everything was different.  I started to get a bad feeling.  I checked my pulse and I had one, I remember I kept checking it.  My mom called, and I didn't know how to speak or answer questions.  I heard my own voice in my head, giving me the answers to each thing she asked or said, which was extremely freaky!  My friend is flipping out of course because I am.  I keep walking around.  I sit down on the couch, he gets me something to drink.  I'm able to drink it but I'm afraid of what's in it. (btw, i had been smoking :) but I had been for awhile and nothing like this has ever happened).  I started to see the room in thin lines and pixels, kind of like an etch a sketch, the lines were moving up and down.  I would talk a lot of what I saw to my friend, and then it seems like I would go quiet for like 20 minutes.  It felt like 7-8 hours of things happening.  I kept trying to fall asleep and wake up completely, but I couldn't wake up.  I remember looking at him and his face would change.  I posted this somewhere else but I remember kind of coming out of it.  I was hallucinating, I kept getting caught in large spiderwebs and I looked and felt ridiculous trying to get out of them lol.  During this, a voice was created in my head and it stayed with me for about a year and it kinda just "left" on it's own.  It kept telling me to hurt people and myself.  I didn't hurt anyone but me. 

I have Bipolar Disorder and I don't know if maybe this has anything to do with it?  My doctor now says I have psychosis, but I don't believe I do.  I was really into crystals and stones at the time and some of them, especially moldavite, were very powerful and I could see things or believe I could do things others couldn't.  When I got away from them, I was ok.  I think that maybe I didn't know how to control them.  Now I have them all out again, and hopefully I can get a better handle on them :)

Thanks for reading

Heather

wow. who knows what that was!! but you weren't out of your body right? everything was just weird and you had different brain processes going? sounds more like you were tripping, but surely you weren't having a drug reaction, because those symptoms wouldn't have lasted consistently for 7 hours.

thats certainly not bipolar disorder symptoms either. but anyways, I think that "condition" is widely misdiagnosed. alot like ADD. Its scary to think how we are at the mercy of our own biological processes. our perceptions are such a complex chemical reaction! anything goes wrong at any point, and much weirdness is bound to occur. you had a brain glitch! don't know what to make of the voice in your head though.

check this out... I was wanting to throw this in too: after I had my OBE, I layed there in awe, right? just trying to be still and think about what just happened. ok and I noticed this clicking coming from underneath my head. very consistent, rhythmic, faint, clicking. similar to morse code. for a couple minutes I listened. then ok, slowly I turned and pressed my ear to the pillow. it was amplified, like it was coming from inside the pillow! I thought, ok. bugs. must be bugs. gross. but it was just so continuous and rhythmic. didn't stop till I pulled the pillow to the side, and listened to the mattress. nothing. then checked the pillow again. nothing.

ok then cut to like 3 weeks later. I was sleepin on a couch one night, and had brief vibration state encounter. (I got nervous and it went away) well once my body senses came back I layed there, and the clicking starts. its right by my left ear now. exact same sound as couple weeks before. except its like coming from the comforter thats pulled over my head. I lean my head over and mash it close like I had with the pillow and its amplified again like before.

so it sounds dumb, but has anybody had this happen? i was totally awake for these, and I have no explanation. and it happened after phase state. not bugs, man, I know it. maybe smart bugs....
the farture is farther than the future. duh!!

ayearhasgone

Quote from: Summerlander on August 22, 2011, 08:27:43
I agree with you Boom.  There is no proof whatsoever that there is life after death.  OOBEs and lucid dreams certainly aren't proof because they are subject to being alive. 
Hey Summerlander, I've received some personal proof on this by contacting and receiving verifiable information from deceased loved ones that I had no way of knowing before.  Plus not to mention seeing things happening in the Real Time Zone that you otherwise wouldn't know about unless you were OOBE.

You could also try Bruce Moen's methods, they don't require a full separation, it's basically astral remote viewing.  I hope that we can end this business about OOBE's being nothing more than lucid dreams! 


Summerlander

Quote from: ayearhasgone on August 29, 2011, 15:44:49
Hey Summerlander, I've received some personal proof on this by contacting and receiving verifiable information from deceased loved ones that I had no way of knowing before.  Plus not to mention seeing things happening in the Real Time Zone that you otherwise wouldn't know about unless you were OOBE.

I've had such experiences too and still I remain sceptical.  You may think you had no way of knowing before but perhaps you did come across this information but weren't fully aware of it.  Your subconscious, otherwise, is a different story.  If you really didn't know then perhaps your mind, in the phase state, made a wild guess which turned out to coincide with actual information.

Ask yourself how many times the information you get from the so called spirits of the dead is verifiable.  And if you happen to rule out coincidence, consider this:

How do you know that your contacts with the dead are not representations of memories in the minds of others (living people) who would have the info that you couldn't possibly know about?  I more readily find evidence of telepathy than life after death.  Thus, the dead person you saw in the phase would be no more than a thought representation still (if our minds are quantum entangled).

That also serves as a rebuttal for the so-called Real Time Zone view.  Our brains are quite capable of getting things accurately.  Also, the apparent accuracy could still be a product of the left-brain hemisphere or even, in a less mundane fashion, the telepathic signal of another who happens to be physically witnessing something that you cannot.

The afterlife and Real Time Zone are simply insubstantial solutions.  Easy explanations.  I've also experienced "precognition".  But was it precognition?  Mathematically speaking, coincidences happen all the time.  We should definately be scratching our heads if they were rare.