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jc84corvette

You forgott remembering the experience.

holy reality

1. waking up a lot at night.
2. having the desire to project when you wake up one of those random times
3. being alert enough to act upon that desire, and having a general idea  of how to keep your mind awake as your body goes back to sleep (can be learned naturally though)

of course, the wake up then go half asleep and project method is the only one I can do right now... so... those are my top 3 I suppose.

It's also by far the easiest method I'd say.
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Michael_E

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Originally posted by jc84corvette

You forgott remembering the experience.



I wont forget something im enthusiastically doing.
If you will it it is no dream.

-Theodore Herzl

jc84corvette

Hey you nenver know, you could forget it. Its variable for you if your a novice at it like me.

Michael_E

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Originally posted by jc84corvette

Hey you nenver know, you could forget it. Its variable for you if your a novice at it like me.



I wont forget them they are too profound to forget. maybe ill forget if it starts getting boring.
If you will it it is no dream.

-Theodore Herzl

Deva

Adding to the 3 mentioned in original post, you need to be good health.  Taking an herbal supplement like siberian ginseng works great for me to reduce general stress too.

Jeff_Mash

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Originally posted by Deva

Adding to the 3 mentioned in original post, you need to be good health.

Eh, not really.  Read Sylvan Muldoon's book and you'll see what I mean.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

weagle

#1. keeping your mind on one thing without it rarely being distracted or interrupted with another thought, if your mind keeps rambling chances are you will not astral project when you fall asleep.

#2. body and mind relaxed either you can do it at will with practice or doing the sleep technique ie sleep 6hours wakeup wash face do some awareness stare at object for 20mins go to sleep with one thought. This also helps with #1 relaxed body/mind meaning no stress less thoughts better concentration.

#3. theres a second way to astral project they are called koans, which means having no thought gets you in the astral even faster, you pick a scenario where there is no solution to the answer try to solve it mind silences itself keep your mind on that one thing you will astral project not only that maybe even go to the next plane above it the causal plane (spirit world).  example of a koan is you hanging by a rope on a tree by your teeth hands/arms tied behind back and the tree is hanging over a cliff now how are you gonna get out?  or what is the sound of one hand clapping so you try out scenarios ie swing or imagine one hand clapping then wait for an answer then if mind keeps rambling keep doing a scenario again so you keep your mind preoccupied with a no solution answer.


Michael_E

what are the top three things you think are most important to getting good results with oobe?

mine:
1.enthusiasm
2.feeling or seeing your hearts desire(projecting) coming natural and expected, having strong faith in yourself.
3.a method
If you will it it is no dream.

-Theodore Herzl