My whirlwind experience that brought me to this forum

[kuurt]

Every so often I have an experience like this that gets me thinking about astral projection again.  This last episode brought me to this forum. 

A couple night ago, while sleeping, I heard that sound that I hear when I know I'm close to projecting.  For me, it sounds like strong winds, and it feels like I'm caught up in it or something.  I've never been in a wind storm or a tornado, but I imagine it would sound something like that.  In the midst of this scariness, I was able to look down and see what was apparently my astral legs rising up out of the body.  I knew I could leave my body very easily if I wanted to.  But, why oh why does it have to be so dang scary?  It felt like someone was pulling on my astral legs although I knew that wasn't the case.  Maybe the pull was coming from this wind like energy, I don't know.  But, my legs were flopping about and I knew it wasn't my physical legs. 

I heard what sounded like a voice saying the same thing over and over.  The words sounded religious, although I am not religious.  I couldn't remember what the words were upon waking.  I think it was something like "praise God", "hallelujah" or something.  I just know that I could have astral projected if I wanted to but I was held back again out of fear.  Fear of the unknown. 

Upon waking, I felt as if I had been given another chance/opportunity to astral project, but once again, I resisted out of fear.  I felt dissapointed with myself. 

I was sleeping on my back when this happened.  I hardly ever sleep on my back.  I usually sleep on my side.  But, those rare times when I do sleep on my back, it seems to trigger such experiences.  I don't know why that is.  Also, because I sometimes have trouble breathing (asthma), I had the fear during this experience that maybe my physical body had stopped breathing, which only added to the fear. 

[Lionheart]

 I have been dragged out of my bed by my ankles and spun/twisted like a top through my ceiling, So, I understand exactly what you are talking about.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.50.html

I also have experienced Tornadic adventures quite a bit in my NPR (Non Physical Reality/Realm) adventures. Many times the Tornado was a vortex/portal and also was used as a "board wipe" of sorts during a "mass Retrieval".

You can use the words Tornado or Retrieval in a Forum search to access all of the posts (mine included) on these subjects. To do that you just enter them into the top right hand "Search Engine". But make sure you do it from the "Home page". Otherwise it will only limit your search to threads in this "Welcome to Out of Body Experiences) subforum.

[Enigmatik]

I think I researched OOBE and AP for almost a year before I made a decision to not fear it.  My mind was filled with all kinds of negative BS like, it's tampering with evil, people see demons, anything you could think of.  These underlining fears prevented me from experiencing what I REALLY wanted to experience.  So, I decided not to read any of the negative stuff on the subject and avoided it intensely.  I focused on the positive sides and great stories I read about OOBE.  And as it seems a lot of people had fears that they worked through to make the experience possible.  Fears take away your freedom and prevent you from experiencing something.  But no doubt, the first few experiences I had were creepy, but, I just remained calm and overcame it.  Good luck

[Lionheart]

 I know why I had to experience mine. I had to see once again what new people were experiencing and the horror of that experience.

Sometimes after you have been Aping for years, you get de-sensitized to what new members are really feeling and experiencing. That's when you need a trip down memory lane to kick start those feelings and memories again. At least I know I do!   

It helps me to answer their situation with true understanding!   

[Szaxx]

Kuurt, its time to kick your fears out of the window for good. Your services are wanted and the only thing scareing you is yourself.
You want to do this more than many things and something you've recently read should give you the push to get on with it. Its safe, 50 years of it and Im still around lol.
You get to know things while awake that nobody else senses.

[kuurt]

When I say I'm afraid of the unknown, I don't mean that that I'm afraid of the astral plane or of being out of my body.  I have experienced that enough times through the dream or sleep state to know that ultimately there is nothing to be afraid of.  I don't like heights or being up high.  I would never fly in a plane.  But, I have flown around in my astral body a few times and I don't have that fear there because I know that I don't have my physical body to worry about and I know I can't be hurt.  And if I were to encounter an evil entity or something I could just think about being somewhere else like my body and I'm gone.  To me the experience is just like a dream.  In fact, I figure some dreams, if not all of them may very well be experiences on the astral plane.  I feel like it's the moment of exiting and the build up to that which is what is scary to me because I've never consciously been though that process.  I just hear what sounds like strong wind and my heart starts beating really fast and it's pretty hard to relax into that and just go with it. 

Just listen to how Lionheart described one of his or her experiences:  "I have been dragged out of my bed by my ankles and spun/twisted like a top through my ceiling".  My God that sounds horrible.  I think it's the fact that we have no control over the experience that scares me.  It's like I'm being powerlessly whisked up in a tornado and I'm just suppose to somehow relax into that.

[lillymoon]

When I say I'm afraid of the unknown, I don't mean that that I'm afraid of the astral plane or of being out of my body.  I have experienced that enough times through the dream or sleep state to know that ultimately there is nothing to be afraid of.  I don't like heights or being up high.  I would never fly in a plane.  But, I have flown around in my astral body a few times and I don't have that fear there because I know that I don't have my physical body to worry about and I know I can't be hurt.  And if I were to encounter an evil entity or something I could just think about being somewhere else like my body and I'm gone.  To me the experience is just like a dream.  In fact, I figure some dreams, if not all of them may very well be experiences on the astral plane.  I feel like it's the moment of exiting and the build up to that which is what is scary to me because I've never consciously been though that process.  I just hear what sounds like strong wind and my heart starts beating really fast and it's pretty hard to relax into that and just go with it. 

Just listen to how Lionheart described one of his or her experiences:  "I have been dragged out of my bed by my ankles and spun/twisted like a top through my ceiling".  My God that sounds horrible.  I think it's the fact that we have no control over the experience that scares me.  It's like I'm being powerlessly whisked up in a tornado and I'm just suppose to somehow relax into that.

I have said this multiple times today, Fear, being scared it is a choice. Whether you are ready or not, You are going to be pushed out of your comfort zone one day mate. You're scared of heights? You can fly in the astral plane, So you have nothing to be scared off. Maybe you should try phasing first before you delve into astral projection consciously? You can always set your intent to what, You can stay on the physical plane, But I think that is called Etheric projection. You have a choice mate, Come out your comfort zone, or walk away.

[Szaxx]

It's a fear!
You need to let go of it. When you hear what's known for over a century as the astral wind, you are at the exit door. The worst that could have happened will have already passed by.
In etheric projections you really do feel a second body rising out of the physical sleeping meatsack. It has its own laws of physics and these are not what you learn at school. You already know this too.
You've been there.
The difference between awareness realisation in a dream where you find yourself somewhere and conciously phasing into the astral is very small. If you are working towards an exit into the RTZ that's likely an etheric projection to use labels, you'll feel all sorts of wierd and wonderful happenings whilst close to your meatsack. 20 feet is enough for most to lose these sensations.
A concious exit doesn't have to be done this way. As a guide I can't date my last etheric projection.
It was many decades ago, 1974 is the last one made I recall.
Since then it's straight into the astral proper through phasing via scene creation.
There's none of the vibrations or SP too. You have nothing to fear utilising this method.
It's relatively simple and fuss free.
I'll link a suggestion to read, most of it you'll already do and it should be easy to recognise your progress. That's assuming you've not read it lol.


http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

Any questions, just ask.

[Lionheart]

Just listen to how Lionheart described one of his or her experiences:  "I have been dragged out of my bed by my ankles and spun/twisted like a top through my ceiling".  My God that sounds horrible.  I think it's the fact that we have no control over the experience that scares me.  It's like I'm being powerlessly whisked up in a tornado and I'm just suppose to somehow relax into that.

But I also stated above in my post that I NEEDED TO SEE THIS.

  "I know why I had to experience mine. I had to see once again what new people were experiencing and the horror of that experience.

Sometimes after you have been Aping for years, you get de-sensitized to what new members are really feeling and experiencing. That's when you need a trip down memory lane to kick start those feelings and memories again. At least I know I do!   wink

It helps me to answer their situation with true understanding!  "