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Title: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Re on October 04, 2013, 09:44:16
Xanth explained to me the basics of phasing a couple years ago on IRC. I eventually read his PDF book and I thought I had understood the concepts. However, as I have come to expect, once you experience it by yourself, you realize the actual thing is much more complex and difficult to describe. In spite of Xanth's great advice, I still find myself lost in some aspects.

I have found that the method that best works for me is to just let all the hypnagogic stuff converge until I have completely phased away from my physical sensory inputs. At that point I find myself somewhere else. Sometimes I lack color vision, and most commonly sense of touch and smell. I usually have good sight and hearing, which is how my non-lucid dreams usually are. This, however, is a very delicate state. I'm completely unaware of my body and my physical surroundings, but as soon as the scene gets to a certain level of complexity I unvoluntarily try to focus on it, my physical eyes move and I lose it. I sometimes get a sudden falling sensation which is also very difficult to ignore (my body reflexes just react to it), and completely impossible to predict whether it's going to happen or not.

I have no trouble at all keeping the "noticing" mental state for almost an hour when I meditate, but when I "phase" like this, by "going to sleep" without going to sleep, I just can't control it past a certain point. The scene gets engaging to a point I just react, and I feel it's not even me reacting, but my dream self (which I understand as a sign that I'm doing well with respect to "letting stuff just happen"). Often I'm just like "Whoa! What did just happen? I didn't do anything! Why did I get kicked out?!". I find it difficult to describe, but I hope someone with experience on this will recognize what I'm talking about.

Am I doing something right? What am I doing wrong? The falling sensation and the "shifting" sensation on my eyes are the key to what I'm trying to describe.

Thank you for your thoughts guys!
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Szaxx on October 04, 2013, 14:03:01
Yoy may be reacting too soon.
Have a read of this,

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

Comments welcome. :-D
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Re on October 04, 2013, 21:31:13
Thanks for you answer! I had already read it. It's a very well thought-out article and certainly very interesting. You may be right that I might be reacting too soon. The problem is, I don't know how to deal with this particular problem. The falling sensation, for instance. I think I remember Xanth talking about it either in one of his writings or somewhere else, so I know it's not something only I'm experiencing. But I don't know how to ignore something like that. It's a pretty strong reflex at a physical level.

Maybe these are what you call "mini dreams" in that text? I have had natural or SP-induced OBEs before, but this is completely new territory for me. I'd like to be able to control how and when I'm going to go out to a certain degree.

I will try to ignore this bursting phasing episodes and see if there's something a bit more solid down the road.
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Astralzombie on October 04, 2013, 22:16:20
You probably just need to experience the falling sensation a few more times to become comfortable with it.

You will have to trust every "step" or repeat it until you do. :-)
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Xanth on October 04, 2013, 22:39:04
Heya, the others are bang on really.
Just keep experiencing... keep learning... keep tweaking and finding what works for you.  :)

You sound like you're doing just fine.  Go with the flow, where ever it takes you.
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Szaxx on October 05, 2013, 20:28:30
If the falling feels like sky diving or the famous rollercoaster, use it.
It's rare I get this now as I'm already inside something I've created but on a slow night, it's a sure way to get an experience. You need to become comfortable with it. React with its feel.
Play a mind game where you imagine being in some situation that feels the same. I used sky diving as it lasts so long and once a scene developed around my thoughts, I manipulated it to be various locations. You end up flying in the scene.
It's nothing to fear, it's actually a bonus. It's definately got a real feel to it.
Use it to your advantage and think of flying in the clouds or similar.
It's a way out of the physical being handed to you on a plate.
A gift of sorts.
Title: Re: Need a bit of advice regarding phasing
Post by: Re on October 15, 2013, 18:31:21
Yeah, I thought about it. It's so sudden though, that it catches me completely by suprise :D
Thank you guys for all the comments. Will keep on trying!