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silwer

I'd rather report a successful obe then constantly asking questions, but hey! You guys are so helpful in here :3 Now I'm sure this as anything can be solved with practice and patience... but that is kinda why I am now loosing sleep over it now too. 
I am making some progress though, earlier I made a post about a different problem I had, but thanks to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRar8IOwic8&feature=BFa&list=PLEB923BB17E5849A3&lf=plpp_video
that Lionheart posted somewhere that seem to have sort of vanished.

I've also started to meditate every day for an hour or a half.

But now when I shut out all the mind shatter when trying to AP I end up just laying fully conscious for hours... or half asleep without getting any rest. I also managed to startle myself in that state by touching the cold bedroom wall with my knee ... ._.;
So I guess something is up it is just not progressing into anything else.
I tried to push it a bit after 3 hours of that madness by focusing my eyes behind my eyelids and I did start feeling changes but I also started to clench causing me such discomfort I had to flip over and my body just screamed as it was somehow asleep and I forced it to move ..

Oh I did manage to move my astral arms around some night ago by doing the above in reversed order but even then I realized I could be doing it all night without actually getting anywhere.

It feels like my mind has become too ... "active" now and I can't turn it off. And I don't mean active as in a ton of random thoughts but just ... too conscious ... so I can't start dreaming or AP because it requires thought for action right? Or am I wrong and something should just happen without me needing to think it?   
   

Astralsuzy

Posted by: silwer Oh I did manage to move my astral arms around some night ago by doing the above in reversed order but even then I realized I could be doing it all night without actually getting anywhere.

You are getting somewhere.  You are very close.  If you can move your astral arms around then you can move the rest of you out of your body. 

Lionheart

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Quote from: silwer on October 14, 2012, 05:42:03
I tried to push it a bit after 3 hours of that madness by focusing my eyes behind my eyelids and I did start feeling changes but I also started to clench causing me such discomfort I had to flip over and my body just screamed as it was somehow asleep and I forced it to move ..


It feels like my mind has become too ... "active" now and I can't turn it off. And I don't mean active as in a ton of random thoughts but just ... too conscious ... so I can't start dreaming or AP because it requires thought for action right? Or am I wrong and something should just happen without me needing to think it?  
There's your problem right there. You are trying to "push" it. You can't push it to happen, relax/release/let go and allow it to happen. There's a difference there.
The "active" mind is occurring because of your pushing. I know this for sure, because I have experienced it many times as well. That's when you know you need to take a break. For now, just practice getting into a mind awake/body asleep mode. You will see that once you enter into this frame of mind, things will start to occur on their own. This is when you just sit back and passively observe them. But, always make sure you keep a journal of any attempts you do. Even the smallest bit of progress is still notable progress.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)