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Title: Need some advice about the RTZ
Post by: VesAn on April 02, 2005, 14:31:14
In my projections where I go straight to some non-physical place, I can always move freely and have a good level of lucidity.  However whenever I project into the Real Time Zone, I always am severely paralyzed (Can only move part of body, or move real slowly and sluggishly), and my vision is rarely good, either.  

 Anyway, I'd appreciate some advice on how to handle projections to the RTZ, and how to make them a bit more productive.
Title: Need some advice about the RTZ
Post by: Selski on April 02, 2005, 14:52:05
Hi VesAn

Firstly, tell me about it  :)

I'm an expert in the RTZ – that is an expert at fumbling and groping around!!

Severely paralysed – I assume you are talking about your second body here and not your physical body.  My advice would be to move away from your physical body as far as you can.  Even if this means struggling like a fully clothed person trying to wade through water (for that is what it feels like at times).  Once you get a certain distance away from the physical body (normally I find I need to leave the room), then movement is better, and more often than not, sight is normal.  

I had a very interesting experience early on in my OBE life, where I managed to leave my body and I was sat at the other side of the bed.  I got up to move towards the bedroom door and my physical body "pulled" me back, just like my second body was attached via an elastic band.  I had heard of the silver cord, but I didn't believe in it whatsoever.  I thought it was poppycock, to be honest, but here I was experiencing the undeniable pull of my physical body.  As much as I tried to move against it, I simply couldn't, and I let myself be pulled back to the physical, totally against my will.  That was the one and only time I've let myself do this.  I still don't believe in the cord, and I think this lack of belief has meant that I can wander around the same room that my physical body is in without worrying about being snapped back.

I'm rambling again.  Dear me, I'm a right rambler at times.  

Move away from your physical, go through to the next room to make them more productive is my advice.  But you must always remember that when you go through a room, the next room might not be what you expect.  

It's all fun!

Sarah
Title: Need some advice about the RTZ
Post by: NeoSaturn on April 02, 2005, 14:55:56
i dont know how to put it, so here is an excelent link in moving in the astral.
http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=65&BulletinID=272#7

or for the lazy guy who hates to search

QuoteThe Astral Form In Motion
Many people have motion problems in their first few projections. Simply getting across a room in the right direction, can be a major accomplishment. This lack of control is simply because they are unfamiliar with astral form. It is like being in zero gravity. You have to learn to move all over again. When you project in real time, you are just a point of consciousness with a poorly constructed etheric shell surrounding it. Motion is provided by thought - not muscles.


Astral Momentum
There is a type of momentum in astral form that causes most of the problems. This causes you to continue moving for a while, after you decide to stop. This may take you through a wall or a ceiling etc. This impetus is caused by the thought you used to cause the motion. If it is too strong, or too prolonged for the action, you will move too quickly or too far. Only practise teaches you how to get about with any degree of accuracy and grace.

It really is quite a comical process, learning astral motion. I remember learning to move about my home town, in my youth. I would start by trying to navigate through my house, usually ending up stuck in the roof, for a while. Then I would run down the road, trying to build up speed and take off like a plane. I would get airborne for a while, but could never quite clear the roof tops of the surrounding houses. I would often float unintentionally into strange houses, blundering about like a drunk in zero G. I seemed to be endlessly apologising to all these strangers in passing, as I floated in and out of their houses.


How To Move
To move about in astral form, simply - DO IT. Do not think about what you are doing, just DO IT. Be aware that motion is provided by your mind. You have to will yourself into motion, to change direction, and to stop. This is the best advice I can give you on this. It really has to be learned by doing. Have fun.

When you have learned basic motion, do not try anything too ambitious for a while. Stick close to the surface and learn to get around your local area first. Practise varying your speed until you gain some control over it.


Learning To Fly
Learn to fly the same way as you learned to move, by using your mind. At first you may find something very much like gravity affecting you. You may get yourself into the air only to find yourself slowly arcing back to earth again. If you persevere you'll find yourself moving in a series of short flight hops. This is caused partly by habit and partly by the basic motion problem in general. You sink back to earth when your motion causing mental action falters. This causes your flight impetus to stop and the gravity habit then pulls you down.

You may find yourself, as I did, trying to fly by running down the road and leaping into the air. This is not necessary. Focus your will into floating up into the air. Then use your will to provide motion, same as with basic motion. There is NO gravity affecting you in astral form. Convince yourself of this and you will be flying in no time.


Speed
The three speeds as defined by, S. Muldoon, and commonly accepted, are a basic guide only. These are:


Walking speed.
Motor car speed.
Instantaneous travel.
I think these three speeds were a sign of the times back then. These would have been the only types of speed known to most people. Today, movies, computer games and air travel have thoroughly prepared our minds to accept much higher speeds.

With practise and good mental control, you CAN vary your speed to your purpose, from walking speed to supersonic speed. This is a big problem for the beginner though, the control of direction and speed. It has a lot to do with how stable the projection is and how experienced you are at applying your will to motion.


Instantaneous Travel
It is generally accepted that if you can visualise a destination you can project yourself there instantly, at the speed of thought.

* I have found this to be highly unreliable *

I find this instantaneous method usually projects you straight into a subjective location created by the visualisation of your target. You may appear to be at your destination but you will usually find many discrepancies between the real location and where you are.

Instantaneous travel is very like VRP. By using your visualisation powers to travel with, you will not actually travel. You will create a subjective copy of a destination and enter it.


Long Distance Travel
I have found it more reliable to follow the surface for short to medium distance projection of up to a few hundred miles. Even this can be difficult as it is easy to fall into the Alice effect while travelling. All you have to do is break concentration once and you will slip into a dream pool. Strict mental control must be maintained at all times when travelling in real time.

It is not really practical to follow the surface for a long distance. For example, a country on the other side of the world from you is 12000 miles away. You would need to travel at about 64 times the speed of sound to reach there in 15 minutes. At this speed in the atmosphere, everything blurs and clouds and surface features cause disorientation and a corresponding reality shift. Any real time objective aspect of the projection will then be lost.

Note: Newbie projectors can normally hold themselves in real time for only a few minutes. Therefore, any long distance travel is limited by the real time part of a projection.

To travel long distance you need to study geography. You have to be able to recognise continents, oceans, countries, states and cities. You also need to study a map of your target area and note any landmarks. To project there, after this is memorised, you must go into orbit and re-enter over your target. As you approach the earth you must adjust your approach and aim for the geological features and landmarks around your destination.


Orbiting the Earth
To enter orbit is a little more difficult than it sounds. Getting up there is easy, you just go straight up, but stopping when you get high enough is difficult. Most people, myself included, tend to blast themselves straight out of the solar system, sometimes right out of the galaxy. To avoid this, it is important to control your speed during the ascent.

It is easier to project to the moon first, as a way of entering orbit. This gives you a large visual target you can project to in moments. Once there, it is a simple matter to head back to Earth, enter orbit, and circle until you are above your target. In space, away from the atmosphere, there are no problems with speed induced blurring.


How Far Can You Go?
There are * NO * limits to distance, destination or speed. You can travel to the most distant galaxy. The speed of thought is infinite. It is like folding space and moving without moving. If you can see something, you can be there....as quick as that. In comparison, the speed of light is that of a snail. I often go out into deep space, where the galaxies are just tiny smudges in the distance, to think and meditate. That is easy, but the trick is getting back for a conscious re-entry. Unless you have a good knowledge of astronomy, which I do not, this is difficult. Following the silver cord, if you can see one, is not practical at that kind of speed, though it will give you a basic direction to go in.

To return from a long distance projection, tune into your body and become aware of it. Then try moving part of your physical body, i.e., a finger or toe. This will return you to your body, and end the projection with full memories of the OOBE.

Title: Need some advice about the RTZ
Post by: hermit1950 on April 02, 2005, 15:54:41
Thanks for the interesting artical and the crack up when i read this-

(Orbiting the Earth
To enter orbit is a little more difficult than it sounds. Getting up there is easy, you just go straight up, but stopping when you get high enough is difficult. Most people, myself included, tend to blast themselves straight out of the solar system, sometimes right out of the galaxy. To avoid this, it is important to control your speed during the ascent)

What a pic!
Title: Need some advice about the RTZ
Post by: NeoSaturn on April 04, 2005, 00:59:59
No problemo man