New astral book

LapSiLap · May 27, 2003, 06:03:19

I'm only 17 and don't have cards like Visa so i can buy books on Amazon.. Wanna buy RB's AD and other OBE books. What can I do [V]?

Lasher · May 27, 2003, 07:13:44

If you go to your local bookstore, they should be able to special order it for you. Good Luck.

Lasher

clandestino · May 27, 2003, 07:16:40

just get the ISBN numbers for any books you want from amazon, and your bookshop in sweden can order them. They might be a little more expensive, but not too much more.

LJ57 · May 27, 2003, 10:38:05

If you can't get the books through your local bookstore, you can order books from Amazon using check or money order. Both the US & UK Amazon sites offer this and the UK site accepts COD as well.

Daniel · May 27, 2003, 13:50:45

LapSiLap,

In Sweden you can buy the book AD directly from this online bookstore: http://www.bokus.com/cgi-bin/book_search.cgi?FAST=astral+dynamics&FAST_VALUE=TITLE&S%F6k%21.x=16&S%F6k%21.y=8

Lycka till!
Daniel

JohnCurtis · May 27, 2003, 22:04:50

The lucidity.com website you recommend is very good. It summarizes much of the material in the book entitled "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" by Dr. Stephen LaBerge. I read that book, followed the suggestions for inducing lucid dreams, and found that they worked the first time!!! I was amazed.

Lucid dreams are definitely a form of OBE. When you are fully lucid, you find yourself in a "dream body" which seems very realistic indeed. And at the same time, you are acutely aware that you have a physical body asleep in bed. However, I have never found myself in my bedroom while lucid; I am always in another environment. I also find that its difficult to detect my physical body -- without waking up. If I could keep from waking up, I think I could convert the lucid dream into a conventional OBE. But so far, I haven't done that.

weagle · May 27, 2003, 22:30:57

its not mentioned in the books except for maybe the astral course book and that is practice awareness. Just do this next time you have a lucid dream (after trying say that 5hour technique) just stare at one object observing it, knowing its fake then all of a sudden the dream will shutdown you will see through closed eyelids then just slowly crawl out of bed then turn around and look at the bed and you will see yourself on the bed then you even know your in your dream/astral body.

as for person who can't order the books like others mentioned get the ISBN number and go to your local bookstore/barnes and noble and preorder it.

jason · May 28, 2003, 13:04:40

I don't own a credit card either.I was able to get AD by ordering it at a bookstore that does special orders.some websites allow you to order by mail by printing out the order form,but not all of them do this,and some of them don't say if they do or not!

Tisha · May 28, 2003, 13:22:20

Folks, in my opinion, anyone who refers to himself as Venerable Master should be avoided at all costs.

At any rate, check out the techniques, try them faithfully for 8 weeks, but take it all with a grain of salt. You'll know in two months if he is for real, or full-of-it!

goingslow · May 29, 2003, 17:36:02

Take the free course.. I really wouldnt buy a book from that guy. Free doesn't hurt.. but he's not all there and completely full of himself.

He likes to be thought of a Master or Leader and not a teacher. How can a guy who holds himself up so high claim to teach you about "Ego's"?

The courses are fine though.. they're instructional. I just mentally toss out the BS.

Makaveli · May 29, 2003, 18:01:22

I don't know if I'm going to buy the book I'll probably get astral dynamics first but the course worked good for me because after taking it I had my first obe in 3 weeks of starting it.

LapSiLap · May 30, 2003, 14:24:02

Thank you all

I've just ordered the book [

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weagle · May 27, 2003, 05:52:06

New astral book, if you go the amazon isbn 0974056006 type that it's called astral projection 8 week course it's similar to the same free courses offered at mysticweb.org from the same author. It's interesting because they take a different approach to astral projection and have to say some of those techniques will get you projecting right away. What I really like is they talk about awareness a lot and ego's and such and how to abolish them which I think is the most important thing not only for AP but many other things to free up the subconscious and have more conscious and the author himself said he is now a V.M Venerable Master because he managed to free up 50% of his subconscious/ego's and able to be more with the divine as a result and he says we use only like 3% of our conscious daily the most and most of it is 97% subconscious ie daydreaming/thinking emotions etc and not doing any awareness at all.
Two techniques that always work is sleep technique sleep 5hours wakeup wash face stay alert 30mins then drop down to sleep when you are aware you are dreaming do your awareness/observing at objects/things then the dream will shut down then crawl out of bed it works 50% of the time, those two are mentioned in the book. It's a good book you will learn new things from it, and if you don't want to plunk down the money at the beginning go to his website and signup for the free course.

Another good website is lucidity.com they talk about dreams/lucid dreaming and the science/probability i like about it but they don't go much into astral projection unfortunately but you can learn a lot more things from dreams with this book as well called exploring the world of lucid dreaming by stephen laberge and of course robert bruce's astral dynamics is really nice book I feel it's more of an intermediate book than a beginners but still an interesting book to refer to after you manage to astral project and want to advance more.

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