Introduction ... Q's about Blackness & OBE's

[Patty]

Wow Greg, you're dynamic! LOL I loved your post, and your experiences sound REALLY COOL.

Here's what you try next time in you're in the darkness - Don't try to 'see,' instead try to 'allow yourself to perceive.'  The first one can stimulate your physical sight apparatus (as you found out, and as I found out the first time out) the second one does not. (at least it worked for me!)

Good luck!

Patty

[ralphm]

it does seem like the quality of this site has gone up recently.
RB in astral Dynamics says to pull energy from your physical body and you can have better sight and awareness. I am still strugling with those two also, it is probably something easier said than done.
I recently had an experience similar to yours- I think it was the first time i actually did not fall asleep before obe - i had a falling sensation, felt my obe self rise up, then i felt as if i was shot out of a rocket with no visuals, felt like i went for a minute ride and was taken back to body. It was so intense i had to check orifices for bleeding. Except for Frank, who said he started obe's with a rocket blast I have not heard of a similar story.

[amcturbo]

Patty,
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll try "Perception NOW" and "Mental Perception, NOW" next time this occurs.  It's apparent that I'm learning to 'think outside the box' when it comes to gaining experience with OBE's.

Ralphm,
That's great that you acheived a wake-induced OBE ... Woo, woo!  So you too have been on the Wide Astral Rocket Ride!  It seems so odd (currently) to actually feel the rapid movement through 'space'.  Interestingly enough, last night, my OBE body was upright, leaning forward about 10-15 degrees from vertical, feet together.

I went on another wild ride back in early February, as well ... but this time I had visuals.  I had done the wake-back-to-sleep lucid dreaming method for 30-minutes, reading in a Lucid Dreaming manual about sleep paralysis and folklore creatures (Haggies) that would visit the sleeping during this time (Scottish or Irish legend I believe).  Anyhow, I 'woke up' (seeing through eyelids) and there was this inanimate stone-like shape setting in the doorway.  Now the door was open (physically closed) and I was focusing my vision to figure out what is that thing over there?  Suddenly I 'zoomed' right up on it ... through it, down the hallway, feet first .. through the living room wall ... through the next two houses and finally got myself to stop in what I think is the 3rd house down the street.  I ended up in their kitchen, got a split-second glimpse of it and then was back in my body.  Going from 0-100 mph (my guess) in 1-second was an amazing feeling to my OBE body ... and having visuals blurring by at that speed was interesting and funny as well.

Greg Taylor

[Tia]

I am laughing at your experience, you describe it well, did you ever figure out what that thing was?

[amcturbo]

Good morning Tia,
I'm glad you got a good laugh from this ... probably because you've experienced the same thing!

No, I never did figure out what the inanimate thing was.  I'm trying to re-visualize the thing and am coming up with TWO versions of it.  Anyhow, the object was about 12-16" tall, made of grey stone (metamorphic) and I think semi-transparent.  It kind of looked like a triangular or pyramid shape (the two versions) that had a 'sheet' drapped over it, resembling that all too familiar childhood "bed sheet" ghost.  Perhaps it was Inky, Pinky or Blinky that visited me?!  So, I'm going to program my Sub-Cons. Mind to recall the item vividly and display it to me tonight in a fully-aware Lucid Dream, including a detailed dsecription of what it is/represents.  That way, I can try to draw the item and describe it much better.

Greg Taylor

[Hephaestus]

I dont like the thought of saying things like "clarity NOW!" or "Visuals NOW!" to me this seems like rudeness, as though you're commanding things to happen as though you're a supreme ruler - I tend to go more along the lines of asking politely for these things.
I'm not getting at you amcturbo i'm just using your example to explain my point of view because I think most OOBE'ers do the same thing, like give commands. I believe politeness even to oneself is one of the keys to enlightenment.

[amcturbo]

Greetings everyone!
I'm new here, just joined yesterday, and am impressed with the massive amounts of Forum posts that contain gobs of good and tasty morsels of OBE tidbits!  Before I post my first official question, I'll share a bit about myself.

I started having OBE's last year, during the Christmas break ... and all I can say is "WOW! WOW! WOW!" and "Holy Cow!"  What an experience it was to first unintentionally enter into a WILD ... then another WILD ... then suddenly appear to be looking at the ceiling, as if I was laying on my back, when I was physically on my left side, in fetal position ... all the while being fully conscious of this 'discrepancy'.  So, I focus on the ceiling, thinking I'm Lucid Dreaming (no OBE vibes at all) ... and suddenly I float up and bump-stop with my nose to the ceiling.  It's at this point I realize that I'm Out of Body.  Shortly there after, I'm back  'inside' my body in 'no man's land' with zero visual ... complete blackness ... this leads up to my next OBE, which pertains to my OBE question for the day.

So, I now feel like I'm positioned face down (still physically in fetal position) so I 'will' myself up and away from my body.  As I 'go up and away' my body is represented by a dim gold starburst " * " that's far off and away.  I know that my wife is lying beside me, so I move to my left ... no visual ... I move farther left ... there's her starburst " * " far below.  So, I will myself down to her and occupy the SAME SPACE.  That was an interesting feeling of merging bodies into one 'mass' ... kind of like a Star Trek transporter that mixed our patterns as one.

Now for my prelude to the question of the day.

Last night, I became semi-aware in this VAST BLACKNESS of somewhere and immediately 'yelled' out an old friend's name and NOW!  I could actually feel rapid movement as I was propelled 'forward' some unknown distance, all the time with zero visuals.  I stop, still in BLACKNESS, so I again yell the same command ... rapid movement happens again, then I stop ... BLACKNESS.  So I yell "Clarity NOW" about 3 times ... nothing.  I then yell "Visuals NOW" and try to 'open my eyes' ... SNAP!  Back to body.  Note to self: Don't try to 'open' your eyes!  Try something different.  This entire OBE probably spanned about 20-30 seconds in real time.  Also, I wasn't totally, completely mentally aware during it ... or should I say, as AWARE as I want to be!

QUESTION: For those who have encountered this Zero-visual Blackness zone, what are some methods you've used to GET some VISUALS in this place?  Since I'm new to OBE's, I've much to learn ... any recommendations are greatly appreciated.  Thank you!



Greg Taylor