Trance Questions

[Tisha]

Frank, that is SO cool.  But I still want to know if the drinks are free (ha ha, just kidding).

I want to clarify the Shamanism thing, while staying on topic (i.e., trance).  "Shaman" is a siberian word for what you are, Frank!  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_shock.gif" border=0> The shamanism phenomenon is worldwide . . . different cultures have different names for it.  A shaman goes into "trance" states and travels to different "worlds."  Like Focus 27, for instance.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_tongue.gif" border=0> Shamans go to the Otherworld and brings back wisdom to the community.  

Frank, this is what you are doing when post messages on this website!!! You don't HAVE to do this, after all!  You could keep all your knowledge to yourself.  But you don't . . . you teach, and even heal sometimes.  And we are SO thankful to you for it.

Shamans used to have a real role in tribal communities.  They would go  into "trance," and meet with "guides," to learn things.  They diagnosed illnesses and acted as intermediaries between the ordinary world and the Otherworld. They were priests/doctors/therapists/generalists in small communities that couldn't afford to specialize.  

Nowadays, modern towns/cities don't need shamans.  They have specialists that can take care of most of the practical and psychological issues that come up in a community.  

Although my tradition is celtic witchcraft, I cannot rightly call myself a "shaman" or "witch" (the terms are interchangeable) because my community is not using my services.  I'm simply a shaman wannabe . . . who can trance and OBE and who someday might make some use and sense of it all.  Someday, someday, maybe, I might take on that role with a small community of folk who want to live/think the way that I do. After all, trance/OBE is one of the few things (besides shopping) that I do pretty well.  I figure I should make use of the skills the Universe gave me.  Likewise should you (all).

Blessings,


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Tisha]

Oh, Frank, you are probably right about the male/female thing.  But it is a belief system most of us will pass through!


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[amcturbo]

quote:Originally posted by Tom:
From yoga, I read that the bodies alternate. I read that if the physical body is female then the etheric body is male, the astral is female, the mental is male, and so on.

Tom,
This is an interesting idea ... I've never heard it before ... it totally changes my old corny saying, "I'm a man, trapped inside a woman, trapped inside a man's body."  I actually used to JOKINGLY say that as a teen ... just for kicks!  Now, it just might be true.

All joking aside, this is an interesting thought!  I'll have to check myselves out in a mirror, while projecting ... and see what I come up with!



Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann

[Tisha]

Oh and another thing . . . just because I call this Otherworldy Travel Business shamanism/witchcraft/sorcery doesn't mean YOU have to call it that!  You can call it OBE, ham sandwich, trance, lucid dream, chocolate fudge, anything you want.  The world is yours to define as you will!


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Shayde]

Tisha...
You may qualify as a Shaman, because you are helping out your internet comunity. I get a lot of help from you, as well as Frank. *hugs to both*

quote:

One more thing: Any woman who's day-to-day consists of taking care of OTHER people 24-7 is going to have a real hard time with her magickal development. Because at the end of the day, there will be no energy left for YOU.

Well, I am married but I have no children. However I am in the military, working 12 hour shifts... So that leaves me really no free time to take care of home life and everything else. It sucks, but I assume things gett better down the road.





To many stars, not enough sky.

[Frank]

quote:Originally posted by Tisha:
Oh and another thing . . . just because I call this Otherworldy Travel Business shamanism/witchcraft/sorcery doesn't mean YOU have to call it that!  You can call it OBE, ham sandwich, trance, lucid dream, chocolate fudge, anything you want.  The world is yours to define as you will!

Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

Tisha, I'm a bit out of it right now as one of my most promising horses had to be put down this afternoon. But what you say contains much food for thought. As I say, I'm out of it now, but tomorrow I'll be back: live and kicking.

Yours,
Frank

[Tisha]

oops, I meant to post an article here, but it ended up as a new topic in the OBE experiences section!  check it out  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[James S]

"Ham sandwich, chocolate fudge"..."food for thought" HAH!!
Frank how could you!
BTW, I'm sorry to hear about you're horse.

Tisha, Having now read your last post on this topic I understand a bit more of shamanism. Had I read this first I mightn't have needed to ask the last question on your more recent topic about shamanism.
If people get confused about the temporal mechanics of the Astral world, pity help them if they try and work out internet forum time!

James S

- You don't choose the belief, the belief chooses you!

[Frank]

Because, in my darkest moments, it's the humour that keeps me sane.

Yours,
Frank

[Shayde]

Alright, I have read Astral Dynamics, and it has really expanded my mind on the subject of Astral Projection and such. However, I have really frustrating problems stop me from being able to expand any of my abilities...

Well, my first question is How do you know when you are in a trance? I tend to sit there and wonder if I am doing things right. I can never seem to quiet my mind...and some times I feel as if I am entering a lower state of (struggling to find words to describe the feelings I get..) well, being and I was wondering if this perhaps is the beginning steps of entering a trance? If so how do I make my mind quiet so that I can enter a deeper state?






To many stars, not enough sky.