alright! this is for everybody who has a great desire to AP!
Calling all newbies like me! we need to learn more about the vibratory state and how to access it, so any newbie who have a desire to learn you came to the right thread!
Please somebody, ANYBODY tell us how to access vibration! i have had an obe before in my sleep, but i have never before done it conciously! so i ask you: HELP
1. Wake up ~2 hours earlier than usual
2. Stay awake for 15-30 minutes
3. Go back to bed
4. Relax
5. Wait
OK! sounds like a plan! i will set my alarm clock now!
so does it just all of a sudden start to happen? or do you have to "activate" it?
and are you supposed to stay "awake"?
> so does it just all of sudden start to happen
Well, to me, it always happened suddenly. Others might experience it differently.
> and are you supposed to stay "awake"?
If you want to see what the vibrations are like, you'll have to stay conscious, yes.
OK that helps a lot, thank you
Newbie, need the same help and I'll try what's posted!
Alright, i feel the need to post a reply again. Don't worry Major Tom :-)
Whenever i try that " waking up early " trick, i just feel terribly hungover, and when i go sit on the couch to try to get into a trance i just feel cold and uncomfortable and i just want to go to bed. I feel like an idiot so i just go back to bed. Maybe it works for some people, but definitely not for me....
Here is what works best for me.
When my girlfriend works an early shift and i work a late one ( we are both working in a hospital ) she always wakes me up to say goodbye. I'm usually in my last cycle of sleep anyway, so most of the time she wakes me up in the middle of a dream.
So here it comes : When i go back to sleep, i just picture the last place I've been at in the dream VERY CLEARLY when falling asleep. Most of the time I'll dream the same dream again, but this time with more consciousness, or lucidity, whatever you call it. I can then control my dream. Then i simply increase clarity ( just by asking or demanding, works fine ! ) and I AP.
I don't always have vibes, and I'm not sure it's an actual projection every time or if it's something internal. It is always very cool and very easy to do, though, so i try it a lot.
Best results so far !
Have fun ! -Joerii
i'll try Veccolo's then Joerii's i hope these methods work for me!
Don't expect any method to work on the first tries. You might have to use them for weeks until you get results. Just don't let it demotivate you, because eventually they will work.
i tried to do veccelo's but something went horribly wrong!
i made very sure to set my alarm clock, and i did, but when i got up it was so weird! my clock read 2 hours and 28 mins early and the alarm had changed, so i was late instead :s
Hehe :)
If 2 hours earlier is ... well, too early, try 1 hour, or 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Even if you fall asleep while attempting to get to the vibrational state, you will still have a much higher chance (25 to 50 percent, afaik) to get normal lucid dreams, which you can also turn into a projection.
Ooo! That's what I did the very first time I got the vibrational state (ages ago and I haven't gotten it since), I was falling asleep and it just happened! Well, I'm glad I finally realized where I went right!
i thought up another way to do it!
when you go to bed tonight go on as if you were to sleep, but keep your mind concious, and it just might work
nah, I move around too much before I go to sleep. Won't work with me
well it might...you never know...
Quote from: NeoSaturni thought up another way to do it!
when you go to bed tonight go on as if you were to sleep, but keep your mind concious, and it just might work
:wink:
lol neo, you hit it on the head.
-En
that actually works? hot digidy damn!
At night is when alot of people AP,
this trick is just staying awake instead of just falling asleep. But its not exactly that simple. I'd recomend you buy RB's book Astral Dynaimcs. It is worth the money and covers many, many things.
-En
i would love to buy that, but I'm broke... when you're 15 and have no job you work with what you can
I know how you feel, I'm 17, no job either and I'm constantly wanting to buy stuff. Grrr. I hate being moneyles! :cry:
Andali
i am looking for a job at a grocery store but my hair is "too long" for a produce clerk, yes i am a dude.
Back to the topic:
any other suggestions?
Google is your best friend.
So is this forum.
But honestly, Astral dynamics is the way to go. Ask your parents to buy it for you, its a book, and you are learning. It will answer I bet 99% of the questions you have.
-En
OK sounds like a plan, where would i buy it? possibly at chapters?
Hey, I'll tell you something, for one thing I wish I was 18 !
Anyway, when I was pretty young, I think 15/16, back then there was no internet (imagine that now?) and I just read what I now the classic astral projection books. At one point, I spent a lot of time keeping a dream diary naturally, and just reading all the books.
Also, before sleeping, just tying to keep awake and not falling asleep. Do meditation and relaxation exercises. ( In fact I was actually following the advice laid out early on in Astral Dynamics/Mastering Astral Projection, pretty much naturally)
Pretty much OBE start to happen without any effort, but generally, fear instantly pulls you back. In order words, if you want to OBE I think a young age is probably better, you have more time to work on it, and really get into it, and things happen fairly easily. Now of course being in my 30s, wife, kids, work, and all that hassle I really find it extremely difficult. I really can't believe how teenagers say "they are bored"
When you grow up you have to work, and that's what makes OBE hard.
So for one thing, please realise that this is the best opportunity you'll have your entire life to get into AP.
** DON'T WASTE IT ! **
You don't need to buy any books, I can't believe I'm even reading this!
Just keep a dream diary ! You don't need any money to do that, not even pen and paper, just use your computer.
By keep a dream diary, and making every effort to remember your dreams, you are in effect starting to astral project.
Remember you astral project everyday when you dream, you just don't remember it. Remembering dreams is the first skill. By remembering dreams, and trying to imagine the dream you want, when you goto sleep (like going up in a lift) you'll project or have some kind of OBE without any effort.
ah, but then again the teens may be the perfect age, because we aren't afraid of anything...if i can jump 3 different brides 20 times in one day without fear, AP is nothing :P
I have Aped before and it isn't really scary...