Breathing problem Theory

[curiousgirl]

that could be true... but why does breathing too slow have to feel like suffocating?  i've had a couple of times where i reached that state and it just felt like i wasn't getting enough air, and it felt like i couldn't get my lungs to expand all the way.  it was hard not to worry that i was gonna die.  when i'm in a normal state and breathing real slow, it feels fine... i feel like i'm getting enough oxygen.  but in that state, it feels like i'm breathing my last breaths.

[ICWiz]

I think its a matter of losing awarness for a minute or two. One you let go, your mind awarness will be with the astral body and you wont feel like suffocating. I noticed that when i was able to project that one time, i didnt have the breathing problem. In fact, i didnt notice breathing.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to 'switch' your mind to the astral double?

--ICWiz

[chupacabra]

so whould it be correct to say that you can "try' to get to the vibrational stage but once you get there, let go, stop trying, and let the process take over?

[ICWiz]

Yes. That , in my optinon is the key. And you have to have a certain mental disipline to let go of the body and still remain focused on the mind.

--ICWiz

[ICWiz]

Hello:

Most of this is from a previous post of mine. Im re-pasting it because its a coninuation of that discussion:


So now im finally at the stage where i can attain the vibrations from trying to project within about 5 - 10 mins. I have Projected once under my will. Even though i didnt see anything, the accual exit was ,tactilly, detailed. I learned somethings that i would like to share.

One, when the vibrations got intense, and i started to here the Whine in my ears, I used to try, at that point, to mentally force myself out. That does not work.


That night what happened was that i was Very tired and the vibrations came on their own. I didnt want to try to project, as i was very tired and sleepy. So I just ignored them and tried to sleep.
That was the trigger.

Once I 'let go' i Felt the whine in my ears get so loud, that i was kinda startled. But at that point i had already started sepreating.

The sensation of sepreating, is important, as many people try to focus on this.

While in the trance state, your body becomes numb. Imagine that while in this numb state, someone turns the gravity off in your room. One by one your limbs and body float in this absence.

Thats the sensation. In fact the first thing that happened was my arm sepreated. I first thought "why am i holding my arm up" i even slighty opened my eyes to see that my arm was up but then i noticed that it was white...
Then i realize how and why this was happening..so i got excited. I then tried to 'sleep' some more and more parts started to float. then i started to see the room thru my eyelids...everthing has a weird glow. I also later noted that the sight was not from the preception of my eyes, but as if i was seeing from the other side of the bed, where my feet were.

then i finaalt felt my legs detach and then my torso and everything. I remeber twisting around...like a wind was slowing pushing me out of the bed.

Then i dont remember after that. I have vague memories of lush forest and mountainous beauty.

The only ..Only hurdle for me left..is that my breathing slows to a point where i think im gonna choke.

Its like i relax to the point where my diaphram is lethargic.

Any input would be appreciated.
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So I think i have figured out why the Breathing problem occurs. If you notice somone sleeping, you will see that they breath slower than normal. I think when I try to going into a full trance, my body sleeps , but my mind think it should be awake. So the alarms go off, saying " your breathing is too slow".

Im thinking some hypnosis affirmation my help here.

What do you guys think?

--ICWiz