OBE - how to start vibrations?

[Zarklon]

Do you end up just falling asleep or what?  You say you wait for a long time and nothing comes but what happends in the end?

I'm in your boat.. the exit IS a peice of cake for me .. 100% easy once "I" hit vibrations.  I hardly manage to get them lying on my back so I sit up.  I'm in a somewhat awkward sitting position but when I'm kinda tired and stay relaxed while sitting up , they just sort of come eventually.  I dont know exactly what to tell you , I suggest that you try some things that maybe you havent done yet.  Try to maybe keep pressure on your energy body somehow so that you might get pushed a bit when your body fall asleep.. One example I did was .. I turned on my side after waking up one night and kept a slight pulling pressure on my right side which would lift me up off the bed if I managed to stay awake and focused on it long enough..  soon after that , I felt strange/dizzy and it took my focus off of the pressure until I realized what was happening.. as soon as I focused back on that lifting feeling , I floated right off the bed with vibrations that only lasted about a second or two.  

Basically what I did might have been some kind of point-shift method but the hard part for me is falling asleep during my attempts.  Try to find a way for you to not fall asleep and at the same time keep your mind focused on creating some kind of pressure on your energy body so that the vibrations will start once your physical body drifts to sleep.  I believe that is the point of vibrations.  Good luck there.  If you want me to go into detail on why I belive that , I would .. its just a lot to type at the moment.

[Vicky]

Hi Radium,
The best way for me to get the vibrations is by getting up early in the morning (4-5am), staying awake for about half an hour and going back to bed. Some people stay awake for an hour and try not to fall asleep once they get back to bed. This can also work for you. I prefer staying awake less and I want to fall asleep because after that I get the vibrations while I am asleep and it's easier for me to get out-basicly I don't have to make any efforts to leave my body, I just leave it right away. In this way I have success almost 98% of the time. I don't know if you know this method but I just wanted to post it because a lot of people consider this a magical technique because it works almost every time. Good luck []

[Huwie]

I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that you shouldn't be aiming for vibrations at all.  They're a side-effect of a conscious projection attempt that may or may not happen, and certainly aren't completely necessary for an exit.  I could be wrong (it's happened once or twice []) but that's what I'm given to believe.

Having said that, if you really want them, I've heard from various people that rolling your eyes back in your head helps to induce them (Robert Monroe used to do that in the early days).  I've never tried that, though.

[Huwie]

quote:Originally posted by MajorTom

For me it's a feeling rushing throughout my body

Yeah, according to Robert Bruce that's what it feels like as your projectable double is generated internally.

[Radium]

Thank you guys all for some cool ideas. You are right and I agree that vibrations are side effect but here I must agree with MajorTom that I need some kind of sign that something is happening. I'm not seeing neat stuff like you guys when I close my eyes, this way I at least know something cool is comming.

I must say here that I have no problem with falling asleep when I'm lying on my back. I think I can never fall asleep on my back.When I turn on the side I fall asleep very fast. While on the back I can get into trance but then I wait for something to come but nothing is comming except unpleasend distractions such as flies sitting on my nose or some other itchy feelings that want me to scratch and basically move and rise brain frequency that I just lowered.

The one only exit I have experienced was when sleeping on my grandmothers bed which is very hard(flat) and so I had problems going to sleep. Basicaly I couldn't sleep there I was just lying and waiting for the morning to go back home and trying to get some little rest for the long drive. SO basically all night I was moving on the edge - sleeping-not sleeping, cause of the hard flat uncomfortable bed I didn't like.

What happended? I was awake and slowly falling asleep which I wasn't aware of, suddendly something happened to me. I began dreaming and at that time I immediately knew it. It was a 100% lucid dream. It wasn't actually a dream it was sort of an empty dream. I just saw darkness but knew my body has fallen asleep. I knew I was inside my body but disassociated.

Very soon as I realied this, which was a matter od seconds strong vibrations started and I started spinning above myself (my body) in circles. Now this is the first time something like this happened to me so I was curious and started investigating this spinning action. I tried if I can move with my finger and I could but moving my finger gently suppressed vibrations greatly. So I waited, relaxed again and they started again.

It was actually pretty cool I went between these feeling many times just playing with it the rest of the night, investigating the mechanics but I could get further than flying in the circle. When this was happening I  had a strong wish to be out of my body - maybe I made it maybe not - I have very poor memory from that but I know that basically I skipped from the circle to a very very I mean extremely vivid scene- I was like in a movie theater
where some very quick action movie was being played - some mountains and rocks flythrough and then some fantasy mixture of everything.

So this is my biggest experience.

Actually what I need to know - if projecting on the side (which happened  sucessfully once) is better for me, then how do I project without falling asleep first?

If I try on my back what happens is I get into the trance state and I get tired, bored after a while with increasing tiredness and a strong feeling I'm not interested in projecting and I should rather go to sleep.

I tried on the chair a couple of times and my body seemed like not fully relaxed when sitting.

How does it work for you guys? Do you completely stop feeling each part of your body beore projection?/vibrations? Cause when I sit I don't fall asleep but no matter what I do I always feel my body, at least I feel the pressure on my butt because I'm sitting on it.

Waking early morning looks like a good trick, but again, lying on my back = no result and turning on the side = falling asleep immediatelly.

Is doing New Energy ways important before projection? Or if, when is it best to be done as a support? Or where exactly should energy be raised?
So any ideas?  I thank everybody for sharing great ideas here!

Radim

[Radium]

I'm trying to project several months but I can't. I know how the whole process whould look like, have read RB's astral dynamics,
My problem is I never start feeling vibrations. I just stay in bed
trying to get into trance. So far this works pretty god, at least light trance- no problem. But then I wait, wait, try to stay relaxed but vibrations don't come. How do I induce vibrations? Couple of time I have experienced them. Once after Reiki II initiation where I have actually made an exit (once) and 2 times unintentionally when I sort of false woke up in the middle of the night.

Please someone tell me how do I start the vibrations, I know once I can do this, exit will be just a piece of cake.

Thank you all!

Radim