Is it possible obtain omniscience with AP?

Asguard · May 13, 2009, 00:26:29

Do you think that is it possible obtain omniscience in astral projection?. Talking with gods, demons, your guide. Can they teach things that you don't know?

mr_karl · May 13, 2009, 08:23:51

I remember hearing a while ago that you could for example, practice the piano (if you're a musician) for hours and hours in the astral and you will have accelerated your learning here in the physical. I suppose you could apply that to other things too.

Not sure how true this mind i only remember hearing about it ages ago. Be worth investigating though!

dbmathis · May 13, 2009, 09:36:39

According to all of the leading experts on AP, Buddhism, etc we are all connected and have access to all knowledge. This is a belief system and if you chose to accept it then yes it's possible.

Personally I believe it's possible as evidence suggests. I seems that a huge percentage of humans have a twisted view of reality in that perceive that they are a separate being observing the universe around them when in reality they are the universe experiencing humanity in a very localized manner.

Think about it.

Fourthdimension · May 13, 2009, 09:42:24

this is the main reason i want to ap cause i am very curious and want to kinow everything at accelerated speed lmao

mr_karl · May 13, 2009, 11:30:26

Quote from: dbmathis on May 13, 2009, 09:36:39
According to all of the leading experts on AP, Buddhism, etc we are all connected and have access to all knowledge. This is a belief system and if you chose to accept it then yes it's possible.

Personally I believe it's possible as evidence suggests. I seems that a huge percentage of humans have a twisted view of reality in that perceive that they are a separate being observing the universe around them when in reality they are the universe experiencing humanity in a very localized manner.

Think about it.

Very good point dbmathis, I think about that sometimes, then I tend to forget. We end up asking questions like 'do you think I can do this or that?' When put like that though, we can do anything if we are everything.
We have to forgive ourselves though it's our conditioning that makes us think we have limitations.

We're FREE beings in every sense of the word. Even if the word is physical-oriented lol

dbmathis · May 13, 2009, 16:38:03

QuoteVery good point dbmathis, I think about that sometimes, then I tend to forget. We end up asking questions like 'do you think I can do this or that?' When put like that though, we can do anything if we are everything.
We have to forgive ourselves though it's our conditioning that makes us think we have limitations.

We're FREE beings in every sense of the word. Even if the word is physical-oriented lol

It took me many years to come to grips with this and accept it. It meant throwing out old belief systems that I was conditioned to believe in from birth and start over. I am much happier today than I used to be and feel as though I have been liberated. That's why I am on here posting every day, I want to help people (including myself) better understand the universe around us.

mr_karl · May 13, 2009, 19:36:07

Quote from: dbmathis on May 13, 2009, 16:38:03
It took me many years to come to grips with this and accept it. It meant throwing out old belief systems that I was conditioned to believe in from birth and start over. I am much happier today than I used to be and feel as though I have been liberated. That's why I am on here posting every day, I want to help people (including myself) better understand the universe around us.

Well I applaud you, that's good of you. I can imagine it is very hard to 'start over'. It's just coming to terms with it all when we have friends, family, work, responsibilities etc. we do have to get by in this world. I don't particularly want to try to explain all of this to my friends and family as I don't don't fully understand it yet myself, and many of them would probably think I was crazy. So I supose I, personally find it hard to juggle the two worlds so to speak, hmmmm i'm not sure what i'm trying to say here lol. I guess i'm just not ready for the change yet, small steps i think.

oneironaught · May 14, 2009, 18:19:11

omniscience means to know everything there is to be known at once.... that requires serious spiritual disciplen over the cvourse of many lifetimes

Lighten · May 15, 2009, 02:30:42

To be omniscience means to be God. Unless you think its possible to become God during an OBE, then no, its not possible. You may be able to create the illusion of being omniscience while OBE. That would be pretty cool. Or you might actually be able to do it. I don't know, depends what you believe.

QuoteTalking with gods, demons, your guide. Can they teach things that you don't know?

If OBE's are real then this is probably more possible.

dbmathis · May 15, 2009, 09:44:46

Lighten,

You got it! My point above was exactly that, we are all just a localized part of "God". I prefer to use the word universe though in place of "God". Perhaps next month the word "universe" will have worn out it's welcome too.

I often think (partly influenced by things I have read) that we live many lives on earth for the specific purpose of bringing back unique experience to our high selves which is our true identity "God".

A good analogy would be the human brain which sits up in your head thinking and wondering about stuff like the new Star Trek movie for example. The brain is curious about what it would be like to experience the movie so it then uses the human eyes to see the movie. The eyes and not part of the brain, however they are connected to the brain and bring the experience back to the brain. The eyes and the brain are however part of the same overall life force. Being "God" is similar. "God" wants to experience what it's like to be human and uses humans like their eyes to see into humanity. The same goes for whatever else "God" wants to experience. We are all "God" in my opinion so therefore it is possible to be omniscience because we already are and have just forgotten.

Like I hinted at above, these statements are derived from experience, books and logic and may or may not be true.

astralmugee · May 17, 2009, 23:55:57

I have heared you can explore the universe through AP. that is my goal once I have reached an obe AP. edger kacy(probly spelled wrong) could reach into this and gain awnsers for accurate predictions. as well as knowlege of the stars. im a firm beleiver that the miyans where into AP to gain advanced knowlege of star systems... as they where expert astronamers.

MysticalWind · May 18, 2009, 13:05:38

Quote from: Asguard on May 13, 2009, 00:26:29
Do you think that is it possible obtain omniscience in astral projection?. Talking with gods, demons, your guide. Can they teach things that you don't know?

I'm pretty sure omniscience runs along the same line as "Nirvana" which takes some serious practice to achieve. If you wanna talk to gods and demons go into the woods and eat some shrooms, but make sure your in a good mood.

Seriously.

MAKE SURE your in a good mood.

SkepticBoy · May 18, 2009, 13:41:22

Shrooms to stalk to gods and demons? all you'd be doing is hallucinating them.

dbmathis · May 18, 2009, 16:01:42

QuoteShrooms to stalk to gods and demons? all you'd be doing is hallucinating them.

You may want to look up the word hallucination. Science only vaguely describes or understands what a hallucination actually is. Perhaps hallucination is just another word for AP.

Lighten · May 18, 2009, 23:08:05

Do some fungus and enjoy, sometimes you get an especially good trip and you get very introspective and look at all your problems for the outside. I know that sounded like a contradiction, but its not. =)

Skeptic boy, are you 14 years old?

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Is it possible obtain omniscience with AP?