I have a few questions about astral projection. Do you have emotion? Can you talk? What do you look like if you look down at your hands or something? How long do the vibrations and/or voices last? When you first heard of astral projection, and you visualized it in your head, then when you did it, was it how you imagined? Is everything blurry? How do you move, in slow motion? When you astral project, were things in your room missing or something that's not really there appear? What happens if you look in a mirror? can you look into the past and future? Does it feel like having a dream? Are you in 3rd person or 1st person?
Appreciate your responses, you don't have to answer all of them . :-D
Hi ss.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 15, 2009, 18:08:35
I have a few questions about astral projection. Do you have emotion?
You can.
QuoteCan you talk?
You can communicate, but not verbally.
QuoteWhat do you look like if you look down at your hands or something?
Depends on 'where' you are. In the RTZ you can look 'ghostly', in higher planes you may not have a perception of a body at all. Just a point of perception.
QuoteHow long do the vibrations and/or voices last?
Until you separate, or snap out of it.
QuoteWhen you first heard of astral projection, and you visualized it in your head, then when you did it, was it how you imagined?
I had the experience first, and then found out what it was.
QuoteIs everything blurry?
Sometimes. Depends on where you end up.
QuoteHow do you move, in slow motion?
Also depends. Can be by will, as if I were a balloon, by focusing attention towards a direction, or as if I were floating in something.
QuoteWhen you astral project, were things in your room missing or something that's not really there appear?
In RTZ projections, yes.
QuoteWhat happens if you look in a mirror?
Almost anything. You can seem normal, or different, or someone else, or anything else, or just get 'sucked in'. Lots of possibilities there.
Quotecan you look into the past and future?
And probable futures also, making it not altogether predictable.
QuoteDoes it feel like having a dream?
Some do. Depends on the locale.
QuoteAre you in 3rd person or 1st person?
First person.
QuoteAppreciate your responses, you don't have to answer all of them . :-D
And yet I did. :-D
Quote from: CFTraveler on June 15, 2009, 19:00:20
And yet I did. :-D
Ha, thanks! so have you met and negative entities? were you scared the first time? how do you stay come and what do you do?I just find it disturbing that there are creepy things waiting for us. And is it ok to astral project if you are sick?
I've been studying AP for over 5 years, but what's RTZ?
Oh yeah, can you see real people?
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 15, 2009, 19:59:35
Ha, thanks! so have you met and negative entities?
Yes, but as I said before, I had the experiences before I learned to project at will. I actually learned to project at will to have more control of the situation- so I could do what I wanted when I wanted, instead of (the perception of) someone else come and take me away.
Quotewere you scared the first time?
The first time I projected on purpose? No. The first time I had a scary experience, yes. But I learned I can't be hurt and scary experiences are really learning experiences. So now I regard it as interesting.
QuoteAnd is it ok to astral project if you are sick?
I don't recommend trying to induce projection while sick, because it takes a lot of energy to induce. But if you are sick and pop out by accident, then enjoy it. You probably will feel better out of body than in.
QuoteI've been studying AP for over 5 years, but what's RTZ?
Real Time Zone, aka 'etheric'.
QuoteOh yeah, can you see real people?
In the RTZ.
I want to astral project so badly but i just can't get over the fear of the unknown and how it's going to feel, i just can't grasp the idea. Any help/tips would help a lot.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 25, 2009, 14:35:27
I want to astral project so badly but i just can't get over the fear of the unknown and how it's going to feel, i just can't grasp the idea. Any help/tips would help a lot.
Fear is a powerful thing to deal with, but it is only like that because you give it that power. Yet, you would not jump into a swimming pool and expect to swim if you did not know how to swim, and were afraid of the water. So, start slow. Get to the vibrations, and learn to move them around and change them in your own experiences. Still afraid to jump out of body? Then just reach out one hand. Get used to that, and then reach out the other, or kick your legs out. Get used to it n a way that makes sense to you. Reading what others have to say will not tell you what you will have to do to deal with the sensations and any related fear.
Quote from: ancient_one on June 25, 2009, 16:40:14
Fear is a powerful thing to deal with, but it is only like that because you give it that power. Yet, you would not jump into a swimming pool and expect to swim if you did not know how to swim, and were afraid of the water. So, start slow. Get to the vibrations, and learn to move them around and change them in your own experiences. Still afraid to jump out of body? Then just reach out one hand. Get used to that, and then reach out the other, or kick your legs out. Get used to it n a way that makes sense to you. Reading what others have to say will not tell you what you will have to do to deal with the sensations and any related fear.
Thanks a lot! i'll try it! Will this give me a new perspective on life? because i could use one :-P
Edit: Just tried it. After a few minutes, my hands went numb, but i couldn't spread it. I then saw a purple spiral very clearly. this threw me off. anyone else seen the spiral? what is it and why is it there? But before i was thrown off i vaguely saw a face (guiding spirit?) i had a bandanna thing over her head like a gypsy and had long black hair. i saw her for two seconds or so.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 25, 2009, 14:35:27
I want to astral project so badly but i just can't get over the fear of the unknown and how it's going to feel, i just can't grasp the idea. Any help/tips would help a lot.
If fear of the unknown is a biggie then give yourself a crash course in 'what you may be afraid of but didn't know.' Self exploration is the key- unknown fears are the worst because they manifest in the astral.
One thing to do is to keep a dream diary, because those same 'unknown' fears manifest symbolically in dreams, and you can explore them as prep for your eventual practice. Another thing is to know that if you're afraid you will be tested, and if you are a generally stable person, you will get to the point that you won't be afraid anymore- just curious.
Quoteanyone else seen the spiral? what is it and why is it there?
The color purple is a good color, it symbolizes 'the violet flame' and is considered protective. If it was funnel-like you may have seen a portal to the astral manifested in the etheric (RTZ) and it's nothing to be afraid of. You can google 'violet flame' and it'll give you an idea of what it may be about. Keep in mind that people make belief systems of everything, but the mythology is interesting.
Quote from: CFTraveler on June 25, 2009, 18:21:11
If fear of the unknown is a biggie then give yourself a crash course in 'what you may be afraid of but didn't know.' Self exploration is the key- unknown fears are the worst because they manifest in the astral.
One thing to do is to keep a dream diary, because those same 'unknown' fears manifest symbolically in dreams, and you can explore them as prep for your eventual practice. Another thing is to know that if you're afraid you will be tested, and if you are a generally stable person, you will get to the point that you won't be afraid anymore- just curious.
The color purple is a good color, it symbolizes 'the violet flame' and is considered protective. If it was funnel-like you may have seen a portal to the astral manifested in the etheric (RTZ) and it's nothing to be afraid of. You can google 'violet flame' and it'll give you an idea of what it may be about. Keep in mind that people make belief systems of everything, but the mythology is interesting.
Well that's good to know. As for the gypsy?
"What happens if you look in a mirror?" I've looked in a mirror multiple times, and nothing happened. Couldn't see myself at all.
"can you look into the past and future?" I have but not on purpose.
"Does it feel like having a dream?" Not to me in the least bit but one can fall into a dream from the experience, sort of like falling asleep or losing consciousness in the physical.
" Are you in 3rd person or 1st person?" First person but you can also force your perspective to view your nonphysical body, I've only did this once so far just to see what I looked like (logical way to do so because you can't use a mirror).
Quote from: T.L. on June 26, 2009, 19:53:57
"What happens if you look in a mirror?" I've looked in a mirror multiple times, and nothing happened. Couldn't see myself at all.
"can you look into the past and future?" I have but not on purpose.
"Does it feel like having a dream?" Not to me in the least bit but one can fall into a dream from the experience, sort of like falling asleep or losing consciousness in the physical.
" Are you in 3rd person or 1st person?" First person but you can also force your perspective to view your nonphysical body, I've only did this once so far just to see what I looked like (logical way to do so because you can't use a mirror).
Have you met any entities? And are spiritual guides real people who astral project and then help others or nice entities
Entities, not really. But I have met one person as far as I could tell he was deceased (without a physical body). Other than that it's been a very solitary sort of state. I have seen hundreds of people, but they couldn't see me as they were in their physical bodies. So when I did meet that one guy who talked to me it surprised the heck out of me.
Quote from: T.L. on June 26, 2009, 21:50:13
Entities, not really. But I have met one person as far as I could tell he was deceased (without a physical body). Other than that it's been a very solitary sort of state. I have seen hundreds of people, but they couldn't see me as they were in their physical bodies. So when I did meet that one guy who talked to me it surprised the heck out of me.
So you didn't freak out? or were you not capable of doing so? So it feels like real life?
No I usually don't freak out, rarely do I ever get scared of anything. It just shocked me that out of all my experiences and no one could see me or whatever out of the blue there is this guy who was seeing and hearing me. It was kind of embarrassing because in my experiences I am voicing everything out loud, because my logic is it's not like anyone will hear or see anything I'm doing. So when the guy approached me I was talking to myself out loud about wanting to get to the white house. Then he just casually comes up to me and asks me why I would want to go there. All I could say was "you can see me?" lol.
It feels like real life in that you are able to think logically, you can read like normal (at least I can in my experiences) and you are actively experiencing it rather than it just seeming like a memory later (like you do in a dream).
Quote from: T.L. on June 26, 2009, 23:42:39
No I usually don't freak out, rarely do I ever get scared of anything. It just shocked me that out of all my experiences and no one could see me or whatever out of the blue there is this guy who was seeing and hearing me. It was kind of embarrassing because in my experiences I am voicing everything out loud, because my logic is it's not like anyone will hear or see anything I'm doing. So when the guy approached me I was talking to myself out loud about wanting to get to the white house. Then he just casually comes up to me and asks me why I would want to go there. All I could say was "you can see me?" lol.
It feels like real life in that you are able to think logically, you can read like normal (at least I can in my experiences) and you are actively experiencing it rather than it just seeming like a memory later (like you do in a dream).
So when you get out of your body it feels like you're just getting out of bed, but you can do anything you want?
I did read about a few people looking in mirrors. One said he saw himself as a foggy figure, another said she could see herself clearly, but she was a white material like alabaster
I always wanted to try it because I had this theory that spirits only give off low-frequency light, but now I'm doubtful about that
Nobody can really objectively describe it accurately... unfortunately.
It's really something you have to experience for yourself. :)
Quote from: Xanth on June 26, 2009, 23:51:13
Nobody can really objectively describe it accurately... unfortunately.
It's really something you have to experience for yourself. :)
ok... but does it give off sort of a foggy safe dream atmosphere, or is it overwhelming and extraordinary atmosphere?
hey tl, have you gone to any temples or met up with any teachers? what would you say happens in a normal projection? Is it possible to receive attunements in the astral?
also, what is the most important thing to have, in order to project? would you say the ability to focus? I'm thinking that if you have less than honorable intentions when you project, u'll be shot right out into reality. What do you think?
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the one time that I did project, I thought to myself, wow everything is so clear. I then looked into the mirror and my face was really distorted, chewing gum, and I had an afro. My clarity was fading as I went outside so I asked my higher self to bring me clarity. It never works. Also the mirror wasn't actually in the same place as reality. is this a lower form of projection?
Quote from: T.L. on June 26, 2009, 23:42:39
No I usually don't freak out, rarely do I ever get scared of anything. It just shocked me that out of all my experiences and no one could see me or whatever out of the blue there is this guy who was seeing and hearing me. It was kind of embarrassing because in my experiences I am voicing everything out loud, because my logic is it's not like anyone will hear or see anything I'm doing. So when the guy approached me I was talking to myself out loud about wanting to get to the white house. Then he just casually comes up to me and asks me why I would want to go there. All I could say was "you can see me?" lol.
It feels like real life in that you are able to think logically, you can read like normal (at least I can in my experiences) and you are actively experiencing it rather than it just seeming like a memory later (like you do in a dream).
"hey tl, have you gone to any temples or met up with any teachers? what would you say happens in a normal projection? Is it possible to receive attunements in the astral?"
No haven't been to any kind of temple. The closest thing so far is when I ended up near some kind of revival church in San Francisco. I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a "normal projection".
I can say what kind of projection I find the best to validate. That is when I exit I find myself in the same room with my body and I can objectively view the physical body, at that point I know that Im in the here and now and can go about and find something to validate.
"also, what is the most important thing to have, in order to project? would you say the ability to focus? I'm thinking that if you have less than honorable intentions when you project, u'll be shot right out into reality. What do you think?"
I think it is the ability to relax fully and completely physically (and mentally if you have anxiety). Because you can have tons of focus and still not project because you cant relax physically. I really don't think intentions could affect projection. Some believe it does but I've had some pretty negative intentions as far as going into other peoples places and find something I can validate later and it didn't seem to affect my ability to get out. Im fine working along the grey area but I would never do anything overtly negative, it's just not in my nature to do anything that horrible. Perhaps on a subconscious level it could play a role, if people think they've done something bad and they subconsciously believe that they wont be allowed to project again it could cause some kind of subconscious barrier (much like the fear barrier most have to get through when first starting out). For example when Oliver Fox believed his "pineal door" was shut by some external spirits. Anyway Im off to work. Good luck.
Quote from: uberseeker on June 27, 2009, 23:05:19
the one time that I did project, I thought to myself, wow everything is so clear. I then looked into the mirror and my face was really distorted, chewing gum, and I had an afro.
LMAO!!! lol sorry
Quote from: uberseeker on June 27, 2009, 23:05:19
hey tl, have you gone to any temples or met up with any teachers? what would you say happens in a normal projection? Is it possible to receive attunements in the astral?
also, what is the most important thing to have, in order to project? would you say the ability to focus? I'm thinking that if you have less than honorable intentions when you project, u'll be shot right out into reality. What do you think?
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the one time that I did project, I thought to myself, wow everything is so clear. I then looked into the mirror and my face was really distorted, chewing gum, and I had an afro. My clarity was fading as I went outside so I asked my higher self to bring me clarity. It never works. Also the mirror wasn't actually in the same place as reality. is this a lower form of projection?
I am not TL, but I remember at least once being at a temple-like setting. Not a temple as a college or other place of learning with temple-like atmosphere. The elders, or whoever they were- were very intimidating to me at the time, but I was nervosa for no real reason. They seemed pleased with me, at least right then. There are other times I have met with similar beings when I felt they were not as pleased.
Quote from: ancient_one on June 28, 2009, 19:56:51
I am not TL, but I remember at least once being at a temple-like setting. Not a temple as a college or other place of learning with temple-like atmosphere. The elders, or whoever they were- were very intimidating to me at the time, but I was nervosa for no real reason. They seemed pleased with me, at least right then. There are other times I have met with similar beings when I felt they were not as pleased.
I remember reading this one story about a guy that astral projected when he was like 5 and got lost. Some elders found him and locked his astral abilities. Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 29, 2009, 13:50:12I remember reading this one story about a guy that astral projected when he was like 5 and got lost. Some elders found him and locked his astral abilities.
A story can sometimes be just a story. :)
QuoteAnyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff.
Between not separating and separating?
It depends really... depends upon where you're projecting to and if you're actually able to see at that point.
Quote from: Xanth on June 29, 2009, 14:26:15
A story can sometimes be just a story. :)
Between not separating and separating?
It depends really... depends upon where you're projecting to and if you're actually able to see at that point.
In the middle of exiting the body do you see your ceiling?? A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?
"Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff."
Usually when or shortly before the vibrations hit I start to see through my eyelids. By seeing through my eyelids I do not mean seeing scenes or hypnagogic images but seeing into my room from the perspective of my body. Then after a few minutes this goes away I feel a sensation of movement then sight comes back after Im seperated. During separation as Im moving out I usually dont see anything until Im fully separated.
"A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?"
Yes. One of my first conscious exits ended up perfectly like this. Everything was in its place, my physical body was perfectly visible. I could read the clock on my wall perfectly. I could read mail that was laying about, absolutely perfect. This happens about 1 in every 2 or 3 projections for me. I think the more you use your analytical mind while out the clearer and objective the experience is. Chances are if you get out into what looks like your room but things are out of place, then you probably wont see your physical body either. If this is the case then you are probably recreating your room from memory subconsciously, like a dream overlay in your projection.
Quote from: T.L. on June 29, 2009, 15:02:46
"Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff."
Usually when or shortly before the vibrations hit I start to see through my eyelids. By seeing through my eyelids I do not mean seeing scenes or hypnagogic images but seeing into my room from the perspective of my body. Then after a few minutes this goes away I feel a sensation of movement then sight comes back after Im seperated. During separation as Im moving out I usually dont see anything until Im fully separated.
"A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?"
Yes. One of my first conscious exits ended up perfectly like this. Everything was in its place, my physical body was perfectly visible. I could read the clock on my wall perfectly. I could read mail that was laying about, absolutely perfect. This happens about 1 in every 2 or 3 projections for me. I think the more you use your analytical mind while out the clearer and objective the experience is. Chances are if you get out into what looks like your room but things are out of place, then you probably wont see your physical body either. If this is the case then you are probably recreating your room from memory subconsciously, like a dream overlay in your projection.
I read things can be even more clear than normal life. how is this possible?Anyone been to the akashic records? what was it like? (sorry for all my noob questions.) :-P
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 29, 2009, 13:50:12
I remember reading this one story about a guy that astral projected when he was like 5 and got lost. Some elders found him and locked his astral abilities. Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff.
If you ran into the elders at that age, I am sure you would be freaked out enough to lock your own abilities. But, as intimidating as they may be at any age, they are on your side.
In the beginning seeing what was around me seemed to be important. But it is not so much now. Like others, I did see what seemed to be a view of my room, but some details were not as they really were- I would see a digital clock in place of my regular analog dial one- things like that. At times, I seemed to be someplace entirely different. At times, I lifted out and watched first my bed, and then the room, and then the house and city etc all recede from my view. At some point, I would turn, or would be turned if I was being brought away- in the direction I was traveling. Usually, the turning did not happen until I was nearing my destination. Sometimes I can see through the entire trip. At other times I do not see anything until I arrive at my chosen destination.
Are things clearer? At times the places I go seem more real than this life. It is like there is sharpness to the detail- or like you can see the object and its essence at the same time, instead of just the object as we do in everyday life. One thing I remember thinking early on was that it felt so natural to be in that state that it felt familiar to me, and I could not believe that I had fought against the experiences starting as I had for many years.
Quote from: ancient_one on June 29, 2009, 16:50:38
If you ran into the elders at that age, I am sure you would be freaked out enough to lock your own abilities. But, as intimidating as they may be at any age, they are on your side.
In the beginning seeing what was around me seemed to be important. But it is not so much now. Like others, I did see what seemed to be a view of my room, but some details were not as they really were- I would see a digital clock in place of my regular analog dial one- things like that. At times, I seemed to be someplace entirely different. At times, I lifted out and watched first my bed, and then the room, and then the house and city etc all recede from my view. At some point, I would turn, or would be turned if I was being brought away- in the direction I was traveling. Usually, the turning did not happen until I was nearing my destination. Sometimes I can see through the entire trip. At other times I do not see anything until I arrive at my chosen destination.
Are things clearer? At times the places I go seem more real than this life. It is like there is sharpness to the detail- or like you can see the object and its essence at the same time, instead of just the object as we do in everyday life. One thing I remember thinking early on was that it felt so natural to be in that state that it felt familiar to me, and I could not believe that I had fought against the experiences starting as I had for many years.
What was your(or anyone's) first projection like? i'm planning on projecting today, i feel ready. :-D Any tips on staying calm?
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 29, 2009, 17:14:30
What was your(or anyone's) first projection like? i'm planning on projecting today, i feel ready. :-D Any tips on staying calm?
Well, I have a blog out there if you want to see. It covers my progress from a very early stage beginning with SP. This one here was a breakthrough where I met my main guide, I guess you cold say.
http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/confrontation.html
Tips to stay calm? Well, not really. You will have to see it and react. But, remember that as real as it may seem, there is nothing that can really hurt you physically. That has been my experience anyway.
Quote from: ancient_one on June 29, 2009, 18:36:44
Well, I have a blog out there if you want to see. It covers my progress from a very early stage beginning with SP. This one here was a breakthrough where I met my main guide, I guess you cold say.
http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/confrontation.html
Tips to stay calm? Well, not really. You will have to see it and react. But, remember that as real as it may seem, there is nothing that can really hurt you physically. That has been my experience anyway.
What made you finally decide to do it? i know nothing can harm me but its just how overwhelming everything is and if you do come across a demon the image is still disturbing.
Ok this might be my most important question yet. When trying to project, if you think of a place, lets just say a grassy meadow for now. if you imagine your self at a grassy meadow and you pop out of your body, will you be at the meadow?
And lets say i do project. what if end up in some demonic world? will i return to my body automatically? will my spiritual guide help me?
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 30, 2009, 12:21:52
Ok this might be my most important question yet. When trying to project, if you think of a place, lets just say a grassy meadow for now. if you imagine your self at a grassy meadow and you pop out of your body, will you be at the meadow?
Nothing is assured, but it can happen.
QuoteAnd lets say i do project. what if end up in some demonic world? will i return to my body automatically? will my spiritual guide help me?
Well, demons don't just live in a world, they're in any lower plane, but they rarely bother with humans, so I wouldn't worry about it. The only time I went to a hellplane I was taken by guides, and was perfectly safe.
If anything is not to your liking, all you have to do is think of your body, and you'll be back in a jiffy.
I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?
So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 29, 2009, 20:22:05
What made you finally decide to do it? i know nothing can harm me but its just how overwhelming everything is and if you do come across a demon the image is still disturbing.
Why did I do it? I did not feel like I had a choice. Whatever this was had been tormenting me (if you read the earlier selections of blog) for years. I just came to the conclusion that if I did not face whatever was causing the sleep disturbances I was having, that I might go insane. I felt like it was a threat. It turned out that my "guide" if that is what it really is, had been trying to get my attention. When I ignored it, or tried to stop the experiences, it just tried harder to break through. Like I said, 'he' was genuinely pleased that I finally acknowledged that 'he' was there, and even more pleased that I was "sitting" there waiting for it to show itself.
As for demons? I have never seen one. I may be scared at times, but most of the time now, and since this experience, I have had confidence that nothing bad could happen. It does not mean I have not been scared at times, but these are few and far between and usually because I rush into the experience, or am not ready for it when it happens.
But still, like i said above, i just cannot grasp the idea of being a "ghost" or how its going to feel like?
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 30, 2009, 19:34:30
I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?
So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.
How can absolute freedom be the source for fear? :)
You mention that you know that "nothing can hurt you"... yet it really doesn't sound like you *believe* it.
We can tell you over and over that this is the truth, but until you experience it for yourself, it's kinda meaningless.
Remember, the unknown is only unknown until you go there... in this case though, you ARE allowed to take baby steps. :)
Put a toe into the water to test it first... see what happens.
Quote from: soulslasher6 on June 30, 2009, 19:34:30
I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?
So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.
May I ask how old are you?
I ask because the fears you are expressing remind me of the fears I had when young (and inexperienced). At some point in my life I was confronted by the very same things that you describe- monsters, demons, and was attacked and abducted and abused, filled with terror. This caused me to research AP (because amazingly, I didn't connect what was happening to me with AP) and lo and behold, I learned to induce and control my projections.
Once I did it, I was confronted with scary stuff that was more theoretical and conceptual, and eventually dealt with it and got over it- the way that terrifies you- by experiencing and confronting the situations I was trying to avoid.
So, my advice is- if something as simple and 'nonpersonal' as vibrations scare you, and you fear that encountering any kind of 'baddie' will scar you, then maybe this is not for you- maybe you should wait until you think you are able to confront your deepest fears- because if you have them, I can almost guarantee you they will eventually manifest- so I recommend you do whatever you need to learn control, but don't attempt AP, because when it works you may be so scared that you may block yourself from ever experiencing it again, and when you are finally ready, you may not be able to.
Quote from: CFTraveler on July 01, 2009, 18:54:53
May I ask how old are you?
I ask because the fears you are expressing remind me of the fears I had when young (and inexperienced). At some point in my life I was confronted by the very same things that you describe- monsters, demons, and was attacked and abducted and abused, filled with terror. This caused me to research AP (because amazingly, I didn't connect what was happening to me with AP) and lo and behold, I learned to induce and control my projections.
Once I did it, I was confronted with scary stuff that was more theoretical and conceptual, and eventually dealt with it and got over it- the way that terrifies you- by experiencing and confronting the situations I was trying to avoid.
So, my advice is- if something as simple and 'nonpersonal' as vibrations scare you, and you fear that encountering any kind of 'baddie' will scar you, then maybe this is not for you- maybe you should wait until you think you are able to confront your deepest fears- because if you have them, I can almost guarantee you they will eventually manifest- so I recommend you do whatever you need to learn control, but don't attempt AP, because when it works you may be so scared that you may block yourself from ever experiencing it again, and when you are finally ready, you may not be able to.
Ok, Ok thank you everybody who has posted hear. I have officially gotten over my fears. Life's too short, live it to the fullest. I'm not going to let some little entity (that i can stop) ruin my projections, And as said above, why be afraid from freedom... I just need a good way to get out of my body, what am i supposed to do when my hands start tingling? Not the crazy vibrations just the tingling and numbness and stuff. I've heard of most all of the techniques, which one is the most effective and when do i do it?
Quote from: soulslasher6 on July 01, 2009, 20:54:08
Ok, Ok thank you everybody who has posted hear. I have officially gotten over my fears. Life's too short, live it to the fullest. I'm not going to let some little entity (that i can stop) ruin my projections, And as said above, why be afraid from freedom... I just need a good way to get out of my body, what am i supposed to do when my hands start tingling? Not the crazy vibrations just the tingling and numbness and stuff. I've heard of most all of the techniques, which one is the most effective and when do i do it?
hehe goodstuff ;)
Well, personally, I just relax, ignore the 'tingling' and let it do its own thing. :)
Each person has their own 'natural' preference for techs- that is, there is no 'one' technique that is the 'best' for everyone.
Having said that, I do a lot of relaxation, trancework, and then energy body loosening before doing an exit attempt, in that order. For specifics there is the 'techniques' thread. Try a few, see what works best for you.