How do I get into the RTZ?

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LapSiLap

active/open chakras, raise energy to stay on the RTZ? [}:)]

Mirador

Jade,

Let me ask you, can you swim? and if you can, did you learn to swim from a book?, and after you learned to swim, did any of the stuff you read about swimming helped you?

Mirador

beav31is

Whats so great about the RTZ? You're already there.

manuel

From what i understand, it requires lot's of etheric energy to be pumped into the astral body.

Jade

Why do I want to get into the RTZ? A couple reasons, I guess. Validation, for one. Although this is not a biggie, it would be interesting to validate OBEs on my own. Secondly, I'm not in a position to travel these days, so if I could visit the pyramids or the Parthenon or even Bryce Canyon, that would be neat. Also flying in the RTZ seems pretty fun, I'd like to fly over my neighborhood.

fURIX

I can remeber some of my weaker OBE's were I ended up in my bedroom on the floor for a few seconds with no control. It is some kind of vertification, but at the same time It wasnt realy all that fun. One time I was having multiple OBE's and ended up with a lucid dream. It was so real that I thought I had woken up. I walked out of bed only to find out that my balance was completly gone. I was just falling around the floor strugeling to gain control but it was hopeless. I finaly made it to the bathroom. And when I looked in the mirror, my face was all messed up. My theeth was in all directions and I looked like I was made of rubber or somthing...

I realized that It had to be a dream. Its wierd coz it was so real.

I'we been to alot of places when in OBE. Some of them where in the city near me. And they were totaly corect compared that how these places realy look. I dont know If that was RTZ. it could have been.

Like my mother always said: "OBS is like a faulty teleport-wormhole-device; You never know where you gonna end up."


















(actually she never said that. She dont even know about OBS's)[B)]

Jade

That is, the real time zone?

I have now had a handful of OBE/lucid dream experiences in the past month or so, but I always seem to go directly into the astral. Here is what my pattern seems to be:

- Relax in bed in the morning, fall lightly asleep
- Wake up to find my arms and legs detached from my body; still feel stuck in the torso. Sometimes I feel buzzing, tickling; usually I hear astral sounds. Not yet the classic earth-shattering "vibrations."
- Go unconscious again for a few moments and wake up again to find myself out of body, in an OBE or lucid dream. (Is there a difference at this point?). Once I was in bedroom but it felt nothing like my real bedroom. I never see my physical body lying on the bed, or anything like that.  
- At this point it becomes a very lucid dream, often involving flying, or can degenerate into a "normal" dream. Yet sometimes there seem to be hallmarks of OBE-ness, like when I felt myself being pulled back to my body. This morning I asked to see the pyramids, did seem to fly somewhere, but the pyramids I saw had large metal bars over their peaks. Obviously I was not in the RTZ.

So any tips??? I know, read Astral Dynamics again [;)]