bad obe

[Kazbadan]

I don´t understand: it was an obe or a dream?
I have tried a few times (only 2 or 3) to have an obe, but it was impossible. Since you like to be a begginer like me, i think it´s more easy to share problems and ideas.
Wich methods have you tried (and if possible explain on overall and do they work-  i´m really begginer)? I start ti have relaxation but thats all i can get- to be relaxed! Wich is the nest step? I really have fear of many thing: to die or to lose my body; i´m afraid that i cannot back to the body or that i can be crazy, starting to have hallucinations; sometimes i´m afraid to find something bad like you have (demons, aliens, etc). I know that it seems stupid but the true is, i don´t know how to make it and... i´m afraid[xx(]  

Wich are the real dangers afterall. And what is the difference between an OBE and Astral Projection (i heard somewhere that there are differences) and wich techniques do you use in wich one?

[beavis]

pyromaster, if that happened to me, I would call it a good OBE. Whatever happens, they cant hurt you, and its always better than being in a body (in my opinion).

[pyromaster]

yesterday i had an obe and i couldnt get out of it. See my mind was thinking about evil, aliens, and murders. so when i had my obe i saw demons and stuff like that so i had to think of good stuff. it took me a while. but when i got to the good part of the dream i woke up. I was so mad.