OBE or not

[beavis]

yes OBE, but not very high in the astral

[jc84corvette]

One of my friends said he had a white flash too, but it was no OBE, he only dreamed!

[beavis]

That makes sense. OBE and dreams are closely related.

[Randøm_]

The close relation between the two sometimes makes me wonder how difficult it is to interpret one from the other. I won't be a charlatan and pretend that I've had any of the relatively advanced experiences as I've read about here. Perhaps if I make progress I'll find a more definite distinction between the two. I've had countless strange experiences, but none that I would consider OBE, but definitely altered states of consciousness.

I don't know what you had, Shadow, but my advice is to keep trying and see if anything more conclusive develops. Good luck.

[loco]

Originally posted by pmlonline

-"Believe me, you'll know a full blown OBE when it happens.  It will most likely be as real if not more real than your everyday life.  You'll be amazed!"-

I couldn´t agree more! OBE is not a dream anymore!
Dreaming is probably the easiest way to get to the astral body but when I get to it I stop dreaming becouse I start functioning with my REAL astral body...not as much as I would like to, though.
 For me, the key to jump from a dream to an OBE is a two step thing, not saying it´s a rule, but it´s how it has gone all the times):
 First I  realize in the middle of an ordinary dream that I´m  dreaming(why I do that in the middle of a dream is a mistery..."just happens")  and automatically the dream becomes amazingly vivid (supose It´s called here a lucid dream)
At this point I feel "loaded",It´s an incredible feel  but I´ve never stayed in that state(I suppose you could do so) for more than the time it takes to think of my "second body" waiting to be used..I can´t help but jump to my "astral body" at that point!
That´s exactly the point when my dream stops and the dream scenario  vanishes,  and transites to the "vibrations" and the pull-out feel.I can clearly feel my second body pull out from my fisical body!!! (sometimes the sansation is so weird that I get scared and "wake up"screaming[V] (I repeat, I´m not dreaming anymore!)The feelings and sensations after the vibrations(in the few ocasions I haven´t "waked up" by the pull-out shock))are hard to describe,(haven´t got much further then anyway...) it´s me but not me,"I´m" functional(I can take decisions)...every thing seems easy and clear ...I can "see" around ,somehow,and recognize the place where"I´m": but I have never moved out of my room!!See, I´m not an expert OBEr[xx(]But I can tell you one thing:It feels good!I find my fisical body very relaxed and my mind very calm afterwards.Sure,much better than sex!Recomended![]

[Shadow555]

One night while trying to project i started feeling like i was acctually floating []. But alal i seen was black,then i tried alittle harder and floated faster and i did more visualization.That made the feeling stronger.then out of no were i seen a BIG white flash that made me jump out of my bed lol.  so what was that all about guys? was i starting to AP or what? and any advise?