Your most interesting time difference experience?

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Tongo

This is for experienced projectors:

so its not uncommon for people to project and be out there for what seems like hours to return only to find that only 10 or so minutes have passed. What is YOUR experiences with time distortion like this? what is the longest you have spent out in the astral and how much time passed when you came back?

I just wanted to learn more about this thx.

majic

If you term astral also as lucid dream with full awareness then longest is clock time of around 2 hours and plenty around 30 to 90 minutes. I am confident of this as entry was by WILD and it appeared unbroken until I chose to exit and could look at the time.

nikolai

this is a very difficult question as there are so many things which come into play

**how good your shadow memory is (how much you remember when you return) (eg: you can have a trip that lasts 1 hour but then return and only remember the last 10 minutes of it, which I assume often happens). When I did sets of 5 trips in a row without a break, the trips were quite long but then I only remembered snippets from the 1-3 trips, and lots of detail from 4 and 5th trip for example. So you end up doing a lot in a trip but then don't remember a lot of it thinking that it was a short trip. Its like this with normal dreams as well (meditate as soon as you wake up and suddenly you will notice all kinds of 'memories' popping up from dreams you didn't even know you had last night, its quite a wierd process, you suddenly remember a new dream, new scene, new conversation etc).

**which environment you end up with (environment which resembles physical is quite easy to judge time simply by how much things happen to you or how much you say (especially if you speak 'physically' there in words and sentences); environment which is nothing like physical (completely dark environments, etc) then can't judge time at all especially if you download knowledge telephatically in chunks)

Lionheart

 Here is an excerpt from a previous post of mine where I felt I lived a lifetime in one night. I saw myself aging in this scenario as well over a long period of time. Other people around me were as well.
"Last night I lived almost a lifetime in Thailand. I awoke 4 different times for real, just to be thrust back into my dream again. I thought it was a retrieval, because it started in an area of immense floods, but through it all I saw changes in myself. In my weight, my health, my overall persona. Normally upon awakening with dream recall I immediately grab my book and write down everything. But I awoke 3 different times during this dream, I decided I was too lazy and would do it later. This is usually a fatal mistake with dream recall, for that would normally kill any memories of the event that I had. But this time when I awoke again and again, I would just jump right back into the scene. It was incredibly vivid and I looked like I was aging at the end of it, so I must have lived this scene there for a considerable time span."
This was a scene where I was in Thailand with Mary Jo, there was immense flooding everywhere. We stayed to help for a while, but then Mary Jo had to go back home to the USA. I decided to stay and help the Thailand community with their clean up. I moved out of my motel into the home of a young Thai woman. I would go out to clean up and help during the day, then return back to her home at night, where she would feed me fantastic meals and I would attempt to learn the Thai language. She would also give me soothing massages every night. There were a couple of younger guys in the small town that didn't like the fact that I was living with her, because I wasn't Thai and because they were jealous. So there were a couple of confrontations through the time I was there. We cleaned up the damage from the  floods and then for some reason I stayed there. Years had passed now and I was growing old like the rest of people around me. But, now I was respected as part of the community. It was really weird watching the years pass by, I think that time changed everytime I had one of my brief real awakenings. I would return back to the same town, same people, same scene, but we would all be older. It was surreal. But also very healing. I felt excellent when I had finally awoken the next morning.

Tongo

Quote from: Lionheart on May 30, 2012, 15:59:59
Here is an excerpt from a previous post of mine where I felt I lived a lifetime in one night. I saw myself aging in this scenario as well over a long period of time. Other people around me were as well.
"Last night I lived almost a lifetime in Thailand. I awoke 4 different times for real, just to be thrust back into my dream again. I thought it was a retrieval, because it started in an area of immense floods, but through it all I saw changes in myself. In my weight, my health, my overall persona. Normally upon awakening with dream recall I immediately grab my book and write down everything. But I awoke 3 different times during this dream, I decided I was too lazy and would do it later. This is usually a fatal mistake with dream recall, for that would normally kill any memories of the event that I had. But this time when I awoke again and again, I would just jump right back into the scene. It was incredibly vivid and I looked like I was aging at the end of it, so I must have lived this scene there for a considerable time span."
This was a scene where I was in Thailand with Mary Jo, there was immense flooding everywhere. We stayed to help for a while, but then Mary Jo had to go back home to the USA. I decided to stay and help the Thailand community with their clean up. I moved out of my motel into the home of a young Thai woman. I would go out to clean up and help during the day, then return back to her home at night, where she would feed me fantastic meals and I would attempt to learn the Thai language. She would also give me soothing massages every night. There were a couple of younger guys in the small town that didn't like the fact that I was living with her, because I wasn't Thai and because they were jealous. So there were a couple of confrontations through the time I was there. We cleaned up the damage from the  floods and then for some reason I stayed there. Years had passed now and I was growing old like the rest of people around me. But, now I was respected as part of the community. It was really weird watching the years pass by, I think that time changed everytime I had one of my brief real awakenings. I would return back to the same town, same people, same scene, but we would all be older. It was surreal. But also very healing. I felt excellent when I had finally awoken the next morning.

So you really felt the long time when you were there?

Lionheart

Quote from: Tongo on May 31, 2012, 13:47:59
So you really felt the long time when you were there?
Yes, I felt I was there for a lifetime. I actually saw myself and other people around me aging as well.

Stookie_

The further you move away from the physical, the further separated you become from time/space, and the more distorted time can become. Take it a step further and remove yourself from time/space altogether and you exist in an infinite moment. It's impossible to describe from a physical perspective, so in my best words I would describe it as being a miniscule moment in time stretched into infinity, and infinity crammed into a single miniscule moment, both at the same time. And that's just in relation to time, space is gone too.

NoY

Look at it like this

Time is the earth going around the sun once, so if you go to a reality with no sun and no orbit then there is no time  :wink:

:NoY:

majic

And no speed so we are going nowhere either, this must make it the perfect place

catmeow

The way that I look at the passage of time in the physical and astral is a bit like this...

So in the physical it's 7:00 am in the morning, I'm lying in bed listening to the radio, but I know that at 8:00 o'clock I have to get out of my comfy bed and go to work. But I don't want to because my bed is comfy, the radio show is interesting, and work is the pits. Next time I check the clock it's 7:15. Then it's 7:30 and in a short time I will have to get up. Before I know it, it's 8:00 o'clock and I HAVE TO get up.

Now in the astral, such constraints don't exist. I can lie in bed for as long as I want, and 8:00 o'clock doesn't keep getting closer and closer. If I want to, I can sty in bed for ever and then finally get up. When I do get up, my friends are still alive. If they were waiting for me, maybe they only waited moments, whilst I was in bed for an eternity.

Now I have no idea how this all works, but basically, the ceaseless march of time doesn't exist. That's how I see it. There is no ceaseless march of time.
The bad news is there's no key to the Universe. The good news is it's not locked. - Swami Beyondananda

majic

So far all of my lucid s seem to happen in real time, I will be doing something and it will one for one with clock time or if its abstract I maintain a good sense of time so that I know in the lucid that I have been in that state for x amount of time and I am normally correct to within a few minutes

Nameless

I once spent many years living in a desert. How many I don't know but it seemed forever. Physical time anywhere between the time I fell asleep and the time I woke up. Hours maybe or just a few minutes. Hard to tell.

Hyperdimensional

Quote from: Nameless on July 05, 2018, 02:00:08
I once spent many years living in a desert. How many I don't know but it seemed forever. Physical time anywhere between the time I fell asleep and the time I woke up. Hours maybe or just a few minutes. Hard to tell.

When I was young, maybe 12 years old, I experienced a complete past life of around 30 years, living around the year 1800, there were lot of wagon horses, I had a nice home, family and friends.

I suddenly wake up and felt so confused that I can't recognize my own brother for 10 minutes and asked him several times where I was, I experience my first panic attack, I try hard not going crazy, slowly I recover my memory and forgot all the past life.
The fear is the first natural enemy that a man must defeat in the way of knowledge

baro-san

Quote from: Hyperdimensional on August 14, 2018, 06:33:56
When I was young, maybe 12 years old, I experienced a complete past life of around 30 years, living around the year 1800, there were lot of wagon horses, I had a nice home, family and friends.

I suddenly wake up and felt so confused that I can't recognize my own brother for 10 minutes and asked him several times where I was, I experience my first panic attack, I try hard not going crazy, slowly I recover my memory and forgot all the past life.
How did you differentiate between a past life, and a dream? For a 12 years old, it must've been perplexing to completely experience an adult's life.
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- Sir Francis Bacon

Hyperdimensional

Quote from: baro-san on August 14, 2018, 08:55:58
How did you differentiate between a past life, and a dream? For a 12 years old, it must've been perplexing to completely experience an adult's life.

The past life experience happened only once, you have a different name, status, you live every single day of that life, you know places, friends, family, there is no difference between living a past life and living a present life.

In a dream you could have a regular dream, a lucid or a nightmare, however it's very easy to know that you were dreaming after waking up.

For a 12 year old it was traumatic, I experienced my first panic attack. It's very hard to assimilate the experience after you suddenly wake up, its like time travel.
The fear is the first natural enemy that a man must defeat in the way of knowledge

Nameless

I can relate to the confusion you felt. Being a kid makes it doubly difficult as most adults think you're just making it up or just don't really listen. But wow at the experience itself once you get it worked out and calm down. Makes me sort of sad for those who have never had one of these experiences.

Stillwater

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QuoteWhen I was young, maybe 12 years old, I experienced a complete past life of around 30 years, living around the year 1800, there were lot of wagon horses, I had a nice home, family and friends.

That is an interesting account. Do you remember the details? What country was this? What were your relatives like? What sort of belief system did you have? What sorts of food did you eat? How much did you travel? Do you remember the names of places?

Or is it more shrouded in a haze you only half remember?

I had an experience of a non-physical space that seemed to last for some weeks... something like being in a sort of "school" where a number of us were being detained. It was vivid at the time, and right after it happened, but my memory of it is a bit more dim now. I wrote about it here... my account in that thread is probably more complete than my current memory of it.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/months_long_experience_at_quotthe_schoolquot_postphysical_rest_area-t43572.0.html

I can't believe that was 5 years ago. It felt like it was a year or two back...


"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Hyperdimensional

Quote from: Stillwater on August 15, 2018, 01:10:44
That is an interesting account. Do you remember the details? What country was this? What were your relatives like? What sort of belief system did you have? What sorts of food did you eat? How much did you travel? Do you remember the names of places?

Or is it more shrouded in a haze you only half remember?

I had an experience of a non-physical space that seemed to last for some weeks... something like being in a sort of "school" where a number of us were being detained. It was vivid at the time, and right after it happened, but my memory of it is a bit more dim now. I wrote about it here... my account in that thread is probably more complete than my current memory of it.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/months_long_experience_at_quotthe_schoolquot_postphysical_rest_area-t43572.0.html

I can't believe that was 5 years ago. It felt like it was a year or two back...




After I wake up I remembered anything of the past life for 5 or 10 minutes, I was that guy of the past life, but at the same time I was trying hard to find an answer of where am I?, As soon as I start recognizing my room, my brother then ALL the memories of the past life were gone, now I only remember images, but maybe under hypnosis I could travel again back on time.

I read your experience, when I am doing an OBE I regularly visited places where you are learning or being tested by black angels or superior entities. I knew my guide name just asking for it on the "school".

I visited a place where I could find dead friends and dead people, they didn't know they were actually dead, I told my friend that he was dead but his family was ok so he could rest and find a different path instead of being trapped on that place where time is always the same. The hells and heavens were more interesting places to visit, but more dangerous [hell].
The fear is the first natural enemy that a man must defeat in the way of knowledge