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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: ThaomasOfGrey on September 07, 2016, 04:33:32

Title: Oxidization levels affecting astral projection
Post by: ThaomasOfGrey on September 07, 2016, 04:33:32
I read an article discussing the chemical relationship between melatonin and DMT. The TL;DR is that melatonin minus carbon dioxide results in DMT. It is widely believed that DMT is associated with lucid dreaming in the REM cycle. The new information is that the REM cycle also corresponds to an increase in oxygen - breathing rates double in lab mice during REM. The increase in oxidization and blood alkalinity could correspond with more melatonin being broken down into DMT and thus more lucid dreams are experienced in the REM cycle.

I find this relationship fascinating because my own astral projections have only really succeeded either during REM or directly after performing the Wim Hof Method / Holotropic breath work. Furthermore, people observing my physical body while I project report that I breathe in a fast, almost panicked, manner despite that I am not having a remotely stressful experience in my mind.

My questions to you astral-nauts are the following:

Could the relationship between oxidization of the body and the ability to experience lucid dreams explain the common belief that physical health or a vegan diet is an important factor?

I don't understand why there is such a strong correspondence between DMT, dreams and REM when some people can just project at will during the day. What is happening chemically in the minds of these people?
Title: Re: Oxidization levels affecting astral projection
Post by: RobertForsythe on September 07, 2016, 14:46:49
Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on September 07, 2016, 04:33:32


My questions to you astral-nauts are the following:

Could the relationship between oxidization of the body and the ability to experience lucid dreams explain the common belief that physical health or a vegan diet is an important factor?

I don't understand why there is such a strong correspondence between DMT, dreams and REM when some people can just project at will during the day. What is happening chemically in the minds of these people?

I am not an expert but I thought there was a Melatonin/Serotonin cycle mostly unrelated to DMT.
A vegan diet may help but it is by no means critical. I know very sick people who get OBE with little effort. Oxidation is not a major factor, imho.
Some people can get into a REM state better than others even during the middle of the day. I am not one of them. My little brother has always been able to drift into a sleep state within 5 minutes 24/7.
Title: Re: Oxidization levels affecting astral projection
Post by: Nameless on September 07, 2016, 19:17:10
I'm not even close to being vegan and yet I have no trouble projecting. A couple of years ago I was deathly ill and lived in the astral more than the physical for nearly two weeks.

I don't really know the science behind any of this so I tend to just look at the results. Since projecting is literally letting go of your physical form I really don't think your physical forms health or lack of is of any consequence.