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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: strwrs_guru on June 18, 2003, 20:40:16

Title: PAINFUL
Post by: strwrs_guru on June 18, 2003, 20:40:16
imogen


i wish i could help you there but i have never experienced pain. and i wear jewelery. i think someone else will input soon so dont give up the question yet.
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: strwrs_guru on June 18, 2003, 20:42:00
and by the way.....you might want to lay off the capitals. i got chewed out for this before. some of the others dont seem to like that very much. sorry.
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: kromeknight on June 18, 2003, 20:53:04
Hello Imogen
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE BUT I KNOW MY EARS ARE HURTING BECAUSE YOUR SHOUTING....LOL  sorry Imogien just a joke don't be affended [;)]. to find out why, could you discrib how you try and project, as are  your arms are crossed? it might be caused by a lack of blood flow, or maybe even an energy blockaged. With my limited experience in awake/sleep induced AP my body becomes very heavy and dosen't responed easyly but this is common to AP/obe. I sure some else can you a much better reply good luck [:)]
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: goingslow on June 19, 2003, 03:46:53
Is it possible you're tensing up your arms without knowing it?  I found when I first started I would get leg cramps.  I realized later I was tensing up my thighs while trying to climb the rope without really being conscious of it.

Title: PAINFUL
Post by: npiv on June 19, 2003, 05:06:52
GoingSlow, Im excited to hear your legs cramped up when you attempted the rope technique. I find that my abs tense up to raise my upper torso upward somewhat when I try to climb the rope.

How did you get past this ? I would really appreciate any tips.

I wonder sometimes If my wanting to OOB has caused me to emulate it by physically rising somewhat?
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: imogen on June 20, 2003, 16:57:01

Hi Krome,

When I try to project I lie on my back with with my arm at my side.
I have never achieved a concious projection before.
I hope somepone v=can help me because this is most frustrating.
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: kromeknight on June 20, 2003, 17:26:38
Hello Imogen
At lest your not alone with this problem, maybe use the search tool with 'tention' or simular wording for past replys on this topic/ problem. I have felt tugging of my arms and sometimes my entire body is encased in a tention like a shell. I guess you will have to try different why to relax eg when lying down have your palms up or face down, slightly bend your arms instead of forced straight, little things add up.
good luck Imogen
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: imogen on June 20, 2003, 18:34:30

Hi krome,

I read in one of your previous post that you habe had an experience with the holy spirit.
My sister in law in born again when I told her about my projections she said that it was not from god and the reason I might be having them is because my ancestors may have been dabbling with the occult.

I asked god into my life about a year ago and nothing has happened.
How do you know if god has accepted you, what did you experience.
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: kromeknight on June 20, 2003, 20:46:20
Hello Imogen
I can tell you what happened with me and if you read my other post about this  you will get an overall picture on my opinion. I will try and be brief so here we go.  "The revelation of Christ, one mans story"
I was told about Jesus while traverling. I didn't like Church's because of the hypocrisy I saw, but thought ok if you say you can prove your beliefs I'd see for myself. I went to a house meeting and watched, listened and read the Bible with an open mind to confirm or debate  what I found. The meeting was based on how they conducted the meetings in Pauls letters. Opening  prayer and songs then a scripture talk and then the "gifts" one person would speak in tongues then another would interperate as promted by the Holy Spirit. This was repeated three times usually by a different person so all can have a part in using the "gifts" then three ppl would prophyesy in turn and then they prayed for things like the sick and so on (no falling over here). It was all very orderly and confirmed in the Bible . So far so good I thought. So I made arrangments  to be Baptized as it was written in the Bible full immersion. The next sunday at the school were they held there meetings at, no big budget just basic  fellowship. The days leading up to Sunday I asked God several times 'into my life' and wondered about the "gifts" if I would have them too after the Baptism. Sunday came and the meeting was the same as the house meeting. At the end of the meeting I was sitting praying to the Lord for someone else's needs  when I received the Holy Spirit. It was like a flood of love, knowledge  and awareness of God filled my every being, the hollow void within me was ablaze with light. A tear touched my cheek with all the joy I felt. Then the ppl sitting next to looked at me and said " you received the Holy Spirit" I answered and said "I know".
I am a quite person by nature so didn't make a big show of speaking in tongues when I came up from the water's of Baptism. Later when alone I let all my sole and being converse with the Lord God by speaking in tongues. I didn't know the words I spoke but that is the hole point, my mind can't interfere with human faults, thinking. But I felt the power of the Holy Spirit in doing it and still do to this day when I speak in tongues. To farther confirm Gods presents within me and the fellowship, any questions I had I wouldn't ask other ppl but the Lord directly, privately then God would answer me directly in the "gifts" section of the weekly meetings. I have placed my hands on ppl in prayer and all have felt a power, nothing to do with me but It's the Holy Spirit that confirms it's presents, leaving no doubt in my mind. That said... religion, the Bible and church can still be influenced by man/woman leaving doubt for ppl to trust it (man ideal's on how to run things). I can't say or certain that the Bible has not been changed, all I know is that the Holy Spirit proves without doubt the love and power  of God in Christ IMO. [;)]
Take care Imogen  
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: DOA on June 20, 2003, 20:54:03
Sometimes when I try I get a pain along my rib cage on my left side.  what it feels like is someone is hurting me there from inside.  It is a imbalance of energy and usually time takes care of it.  I suggest just keep practicing till the new energy pathways have developed.  

I also get headaches but I belive that is from concentrating too hard.

I also get pressure on my temples and that is expanding energy it feels differant.



DOA
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: ronaldo on June 23, 2003, 20:29:10
imogen try lying with your arms on your stomach that used to happen to me when my gf left my handcuffs on behind my back my wrists hurt too
Title: PAINFUL
Post by: imogen on June 18, 2003, 20:18:15

HI,

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY SUFFERS ANY PAIN WHILST TRYING TO PROJECT.
I KEEP GETTING CRAMP LIKE PAINS IN MY FOREARMS EVERY TIME I TRY TO PROJECT. I'VE TRIED IGNORING IT BUT IT JUST GETS WORSE UNTIL I HAVE TO STOP.  
I READ IN ASTRAL DYNAMICS THAT THIS COULD BE CAUSED BY WEARING JEWELLERY BUT I DON'T WEAR ANY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT COULD BE CAUSING IT.


IMOGEN