very strange experience...any1 else? 2nd obe

[micron]

anybody? [?]

[ralphm]

After having about 20 obe experiences I think the keyword is 'very strange experience' , It was only after having obe experiences I was able to have obe dreams, maybe due to the exit experience and going thru walls   experience that have a certain feel to them. For a while i was able to seperate the exp into dream and 'real' obe, then after haveing 'real' dreams of obe I became more confused of what is 'real'. My latest thoughts is that what is important is how aware and how in control of the situation you remain.

[micron]

quote:Originally posted by ralphm

My latest thoughts is that what is important is how aware and how in control of the situation you remain.

Yeah i agree with you there. I mean does it matter if it was a dream obe or real obe? As long as consciousness is present...its real. same goes for LD's imo. Perception = reality.

[micron]

Hello all again []

Ok this morning after waking up on the couch i went upstairs and went to sleep next to my gf. Of course i had some quick dreams, but as usual her tossing woke me up. She decided to get up (thank god) and i called work to let em know that i'll be coming in late. I went back to sleep on my back. A half hour later i woke up and in the process of waking up (that in between state) my mind was flooed with the experience of what happened in that time period. I first had a dream...then i RE-experienced an obe i had in that time. I want to say that i re-experienced because thats the only way to describe it. unlike a memory where you know what took place but only as a memory, i actually felt the whole obe process take place in 1st person all over again. I was fully consciouss of what was happening and although it was short i got 2 things done. i looked at my hands and passed them through a wall. I went through the whole vibration and seperation process etc. then after it ended i remembered a dream afterward. All that happened in the time it took to wake up...very strange. So anyway my question is, has this happened to any of you before? Im guessing that i had a dream...then something made me more consciouss and i woke up in the vibration stage...then toward the end of the obe i fell back into a deep sleep and had another dream...? does this seem logical? Even if it doesnt i cant pass it off as a dream because it was tooooo real and i was consciouss...anyway im done rambling [^] cyas!