Phasing and how YOU do it.

[Bellend_1010]

With Phasing I don't seem to have much luck with it. I have been very relaxed and found my body mellow as well as my senses while I am looking into the darkness of my closed eyes but NOTHING in the darkness I am gazing into seems to take shape or form. Ideally I am looking to visualize a setting of a waterfall location in the darkness I am gazing into which I hope I can phase into directly also while listening so a water rushing binarual beats sounds which I feel may help when trying to imagine then eventually see and enter a waterfall setting but usually after about 40 mins I give up.

So any phasers out there.....how do YOU do it please. What technique exactly to you do and how long roughly does it take you? do youfind yourself staring into the darkness of closed eyes for hours before anything comes which you can enter after the body feels distant? also do you always image the image you want to go into while looking into darkness. Thx.

[Re]

Once I was falling asleep and hypnogogic images started to form in my mind. Among all the usual chaos I started to see more and more clearly my own face in the distance. It had its eyes closed, so I tried to open them. The face's eyes opened and stared in my direction with a faint glow.

I got pretty scared, but I could feel as if I could see through my eyelids. Nothing I hadn't experienced before here, but this time I had direct feedback while I opened and closed those "virtual eyes". I sort of know how to do it at will while I'm falling asleep now and conjure settings of image and sound around me. Of course it doesn't always work, bur it has improved a lot.

In short: experiment with hypnogogic images and/or sounds and learn how your mind does to summon them.

[eflynn]

I don't rely on any particular method to be honest.  I just let my mind conure up some interesting scenario or other and I get absorbed by it.  Can't really explain it any better.  I start getting involved in the scene, it becomes more real as time goes on, I get less and less aware of my physical body lying in bed, and I either fall asleep (failure) or I suddenly realize at some point that I'm there, in the scenario which has very much become my current reality.  I don't bother with pulling vibrations or raising enegry (unless I happen to feel like raising energy but it's not for AP purposes, just feels good) and the transition is seamless.  You're just - there.    Only thing it takes is practice maintaining awareness while falling asleep.  That's all.  There's nothing really to "do", you just set an intent to stay aware and follow through. 

I don't mean to imply this is easy.  Took me a LONG time to get to this point, and still, I fall asleep as usual FAR more times than I "fall" into the scene.  Lifestyle affects this alot.  So does working on dream recall (mine is currently lousy - stopped keeping a journal 'cause I'm lazy). 

[Simo]

Once I imagined a book,and tried to read it-the  letters and words change places fast it's foggy but i push harder to clear it and boom I'm out

[Summerlander]

I'm starting to despise the word "phase" or "phasing". It's empty and it can have different meanings. We have Raduga at Obe4u.com using it to mean everything from OOBEs to Astral Projection to Lucid Dreams (the latter depends) in such a way that, and I quote:

"A phase has two primary attributes: 1.) practitioners possess full, conscious awareness during the experience, and 2.) practitioners recognize a genuine separation from the physical body." - www.obe4u.com

Then we have Bedeekin's 1st phase, 2nd phase terminology which is already being used in Astral Viewers and such experiences are brought about by using the nap method. And then we have the word "phasing" being applied to described the method used by Kepple and Xanth. Wait for Xanth to answer that for you.

[Re]

I think Bellend referred to Kepple's concept. I guess it depends on what literature gets to you first, but I think it's totally pointless to use it for everything.

@Simo: That book reading thing is absolutely brilliant! I have to try that.

[eflynn]

@Simo: That book reading thing is absolutely brilliant! I have to try that.

I second that motion.  I've never thought of that before.  So what book in particular do you imagine reading?  Are you just skimming the lines to find concrete words but not really reading a coherent story?  Are you imagining putting the words in yourself as if you are the writer?  I'd like to hear more about this.

[Simo]

Just a closed book,then I open it at random page and try to read it.I don't try to put my imaginative text or pictures,I just try to see what the book has inside-like picking random book in a library  I believe that information can be gathered this way,but so far I can't understand the language they are written

[Bellend_1010]

What is the best mind condition to attempt to phase from? would you say it was best to try when about to sleep or relaxation or? and any particular position which is the best?

[Bellend_1010]

Rather than do a new thread I saw no one answered my last Q here so I wanted to try again:

What is the best mind condition to attempt to phase from? would you say it was best to try when about to sleep or relaxation or? and any particular position which is the best? so it better to try when fully rested or tired when you liable to just fall asleep?

people experienced with phasing reply only pls.

[CFTraveler]

Rather than do a new thread I saw no one answered my last Q here so I wanted to try again:

What is the best mind condition to attempt to phase from? would you say it was best to try when about to sleep or relaxation or? and any particular position which is the best? so it better to try when fully rested or tired when you liable to just fall asleep?

I follow the same routine I use for any type of AP, be it OBE with separation or phase into the background.
I relax, trance, and then observe.  Usually the phase happens when I'm very deeply tranced, not so much as I'm going to sleep, because the awareness is much more 'on', but I suppose it's the best way to describe it (for me).
I do all my AP work on a recliner, unless I just woke up in bed and don't want to get up.  So reclined or on my back (with a pillow).  Never on the side.

[Xanth]

Rather than do a new thread I saw no one answered my last Q here so I wanted to try again:

What is the best mind condition to attempt to phase from? would you say it was best to try when about to sleep or relaxation or? and any particular position which is the best? so it better to try when fully rested or tired when you liable to just fall asleep?

I think that the state when you just come out of sleep is the best time to attempt a projection.

I believe the goal should be to be able to replicate that state via meditation, so you can do project at anytime during the day, whenever you want.  Learn to meditate towards that state in any and every possible position and situation.  Work towards desensitizing yourself to whatever troubles or distracts you while you meditate to take that "problem" out of the equation.

people experienced with phasing reply only pls.

This doesn't just apply to Phasing though.
It applies to every form/method of projection.