Time travel?

[Targett]

Is it possible to project into the future while APing?

Earlier i had a obe and i saw my dad sitting in the chair. I tried to get hes attention by swinging my arms in his face but was unsuccessful, then the momentum of my movements kept on going and i went through the wall behind him, next second the projection fizzled out and i was paralyzed in my body.

I tried to break it and get out as fast as i could to go and see if my dad was actually sitting in his chair and confirm my experience was real. I got out after about 60 seconds of struggling and went out to the living room but my dad was outside working on the car

About 1 hour later i was reading some articles on the Internet and i looked at my dad and realized he was sitting in the exact same position as he was in my obe

I wonder if i projected about 1 hour into the future??

Is it possible??

Thx

[Kodemaster]

Hello Targett,

It's definitely possible. I've read many stories of people going back in time, including one who wrote about going back to the Roman Empire.

Congratulations on your projection!

Jeni

[cybersnafu]

So...has anyone read "The Yoga of Time Travel"?  http://www.questbooks.net/title.cfm?bookid=504

Quote:  Buddha said he could move backward through time, observes theoretical physicist Fred Alan Wolf. Time travel is not just science fiction; it may actually be possible. Wolf draws on yoga and quantum physics to show that time is a flexible projection of mind. Cheating time, he says, is an ancient metaphysical idea from the Vedas having to do with moving through meditation to a place where time stands still.

I'm very interested in this subject.  I want to travel back in my past to see if I can't correct an error I made.  Yes, I know...most people would say let it go.  But...I'd still like to try.  It's very important to me.  I've ordered this book but haven't read yet.  I've also read on a few posts that people have gone back in time during astral projection...but has anyone gone back and actually changed something that changed their present time by ripple effect?

[Shadowflame]

This time travel stuff sounds really intriguing. I don't think it's possible to change the past though. Only observe.

I think I once went back in time. I don't know if I was just dreaming or  projecting subconsciously. I remember having someone guiding me but I don't really remember anything except vague images of dinosaurs. And I do think I remember the person or guide? with me telling me that I won't remember any of it.

[clandestino]

Well, einstein proved long ago that time isn't simply something that flows - instead it is an aspect of a space-time continuum that goes largely ignored during our waking hours.

Quantum theory is very relevant to us, we who are interested in OBE. Do a google search for John Bell's inequality. Also, have a look at Gisin's CERN experiments.

The current lead article in New Scientist discusses both. A pair of entangled particles (e.g. photons, or electrons) can be seperated, & when we change the properties of one, the other changes instantly. This has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt at CERN..... under special circumstances, sub-atomic particles appear to "communicate" instantaneously, with information travelling 1000's of times faster than the speed of light. This strange property of the universe we perceive is now called "non-locality".

However, it is the implications that are very interesting.
Either :
a) There is an energy that travels so fast that it can carry information in an instant.
b) The universe is not "out there" for us to measure / perceive... it is "in here".
or c) We have no free will.

[Vvid1012]

Very interesting.  I would argue to throw out C simply by saying we are the controllers, or the ones who 'set' the properties--at least in our minds.  And thus we relay energy signals among people allowing communication.  However, then I would argue whether we are actually the top of the chain.  Meaning, there could be a higher energy using us as transmitters... while we are simply observers with unique reflexes too energy signals.

[Nathan]

ive been to the end of my life, and the beginning of my life. and depending on decisions i make now. I could endup crazy, or u know, just old. I dont have time to make a full post. However Ive been able to do forward and backward in time, with my own conscious development, scary.

Be careful. If youre that good at obe, sometimes you stay and plant yourself. I'm never the same.  However, right now. I am the same which is quite refreshing.

I'm going to readup about all that stuff you guys have posted.

Thanks a lot, Nathan

[manuel]

Yeah sure is, most I have gone is a few months, I saw my neighbours gathered around a late model merc, a white one, I rememebered its model type, a few months later I see there daughter driving it up our street, except it was black, cool eh?

[Projector]

I have done some time travel both the future and the past but I thought it would be soo cool

to project into the past and wake up in a "past self" physical body and go through my life at that age then project back to the future and see what has changed.

I say its impossible but it would be cool.

[Almost Solid]

The majority of my unintentional APs have been back or foreward in time. Stories for those interested...

When I was in second grade, due to my class disruption, my teacher put me, once again, out in the hall desk and all. I've never had an imaginary friend, but this particular day, I invented company or something. Someone talked to me and I still remember it vaguely, but not what was said (32 years ago). In '92 or '93 I remember a dream that I went back to this place and talked to 'little me' and whispered something in 'little me's ear. You'd think I'd remember what, right? Might have been something that changed my future, don't know. Not sure if it was an AP or just a dream, though it stuck in my memory all these years. Odd anyway.

Backward, in an AP about 10 years ago, went to some village someplace in Europe, Poland or ? during or at the end of WWII. One of those vicarious things where I was seeing through someone else's eyes. I was part of a mob who hung a fellow villager from a meathook in the town square for being a nazi informer. I had a real conflict of feelings as the 'me' doesn't care for mobs or acts that horrific, but the person I was seeing it through felt the person well deserved it. I returned and woke up with this conflict. When I got my first PC a few years later, I looked this up and found it did go on.

Had a lot of these experiences, but if I don't narrow it down to these two I'd be tying all night. This last part requires patience, if it's even interesting to anyone. There's always the BACK button.

I was at my first self-destruction apartment after I graduated. My room mate and I with the other 3-30 or so other hangers-on abused ourselves 24/7 were plowed as usual one night and I crashed, out of my skull. I remember having a dream of eating a lot of aspirin. A couple times as a kid I did also. Once I caught hell at 10-12 for drinking the wine my mother used for cooking and I denied it to the hilt. And I was honest for a minute or so....till I remembered the dream. Anyway, after the aspirin dream (who dreams while blacked out anyway???) I had an AP of being a couple towns away in an old trailor with two bad-asses on either side of a table talking to this kid who was just inside. I was kind of hovering above his right shoulder. Couldn't hear their words but picked up by intuition what was going on. The kid was scared as hell and knew they were deciding what to do with him. He'd taken their dope (coke, I think?) and used it all himself, where he was supposed to sell it and give these guys their sale price. So, after making all kinds of lame assurances, he left and I floated out the door behind him. That part of the AP ended there and the next thing I focused on was a name, whcih I knew as Thibeau. It's a common name in my hometown, but there were letters scrunched in to make it Thibideau. I hadn't ever heard that name, but later found out it's common in that town. I focused on this thinking it was important. Then, I sensed everything going black (no way to explain that one) and made myself wake up and paced the apartment till 4-5 AM.Finally, I said to hell with it. If I die, I die. Gotta sleep. I woke up at noon the next day and there was an empty aspirin bottle in the corner on the bathroom floor. Maybe I was hungry and thought I was in the kitchen? Headache? Fast forward two weeks and I was in that town with a friend in another trailor, some friends of his. They were smoking weed and the place was cloudy, so I left to get a pizza (no munchies, didn't hang around long enough- just hungry). While I was waiting for the pizza, I saw on the glass counter partition a 'missing' poster with this kid's picture and the name Thibideau, with the letters scrunched in like I remembered. I thought of calling the cops as instructed on the poster...and say what? So I left it alone, although I did cruise the town a few times looking for the trailor. Never found it. Fast forward another six months and I'm at a party in another nearby town. I'm talking to someone and heard the name Thibideau mentioned. It was the same kid they were talking about. I asked the guys (who knew him) what happenend and they said no one knew, but they suspected he was killed for screwing someone over in a dope deal.

Take it or leave it, folks. ~

[Leyla]

Yes, it is. I've done it.

I was actually at a series of portals/doorways into the past AND future.

Astral dynamics even has a small section about it.

[catmeow]

Targett - yes I think it's possible but I don't think you can interact, just observe. It may be possible to skip to parallel existences too, I think I may have done this, but again, no intervening just observing?

Leyla - you should post more of your experiences. I know you have one where you believe you communicated withyourself in the past.

Clandestino - The particle entanglement thing is an intersesting anomaly, because as you say it implies that information is delivered instantaneously, which is impossible according to modern relativistic (as opposed to quantum) physics.  I'm very suspicious about drawing parallels between quantum physics and traditional mysticism.  Personally I don't think we can explain our existence in physical science terms.  But it's an intriguing subject.

Almost Solid - That's a great story  I'm sure you tuned into this kid's sad life...

catmeow

[Almost Solid]

Hey Leyla, I haven't read Astral Dynamics. Books never seem to get me anywhere. Learned quite a few things, but can't impliment them. Was wondering, do you personally have any control as to where you go?


Thanks, catmeow. It would have been a greater story (they'd ALL be) if no one got killed. I don't think I've ever gone backward and seen anything 'nice'. It would be a welcome change.

[Leyla]

CatMeow- I did post on that expereince in detail, it's floating around here somewhere....

Almost Solid- Do I have control over my experiences?... sometimes.

Reading over techniques rarely gets me anywhere either, however, it has been a invaluable resource to me when it comes to figuring out what the hell is going on.  

Whenever I have a new and baffling experience, I run a search, and I find he's usually got a paragraph devoted to it somewhere.

Then I can convince myself "See? This is all perfectly normal. Look, it's right there in print. So common they even write books about it. Yep. Nothings happening to me that hasn't happened to others."

[Almost Solid]

Har! When some of us were younger, we had no books (or couldn't find any) no internet, no one to talk to. Just our own instincts and the hairy eyeballs of others to guage our sanity by. Skreeek, skreeek... :^s