Physical Astral Projectors

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

Once again.. the analytical mind is stirring with questions. This might have been asked before, so please point me to the right direction topic. If not, here goes anyways.


1. Here we are living in the physical world leaving out bodies and projecting into the astral world and higher. Now, my question is why haven't the people who've passed on try to project down into the physical. I guess you could call it materialization into the physical from the astral. Is there a law that prohibits people in the astral and higher from coming back to the physical?  If so, wouldn't you think people would be studying how to project back into the physical?


2. Has anyone here been able to astral project and then materialize back to the physical verified by the target recipient?


Tvos

[vanos]

The real question is, why would any sane mind WANT to project down into this dark hole of selfish desires that hangs like a storm cloud around the earth.

There is simply too much else going on. Its like having a whole ice cream factory in front of you and then wanting to lick some old cream from the bottom of a used carton. It makes no sense.

The notion that something prevents minds from "projecting down" seems a little simplistic to me...

Besides, the earth is a place of learning and once you are done here you move on. It would serve no purpose coming back here, unless of course you have more lessons to learn and need to reincarnate - but thats a different story.

I have never tried it, but if I understand you correctly, a physical mind/focus trying to project back to the physical while in the astral would simply end up back in his original body, not so?

[Stookie]

When we project from here, don't we project into our other already existing bodies?  So if you don't have a physical body, how could you project to it?  It seems to me the only way to do it would be to use someone elses existing body. (and that just seems wrong).

Also, when a being materializes in the physical, isn't it true that it's still etheric, and just really close to the physical plane? (I really don't know, I'm still learning)

[David Warner]

Vanos,

I would think that the people who've passed from the physical and onto the astral would like to contact their loved ones, show them that they are okay and doing fine rather then just thru dreams. Kinda of like in the movie "Ghost" towards the end where Sam Wheat materialized with the help of the white light, helpers?

Stookie,

That does make sense - I guess that would be called a psychic attack, possession etc..

Tvos

[Mikael]

i think i agree with the idea that if your physical body is dead, what would be able to project down to, but maybe projection to the physical is what ghosts are doing?  It is well documented that people have seen recently departed family members before, but that could be before they leave the physical for good.

Several years ago my cousin's fiance said that while closing down at the social club he used to work in he saw my nan walk out of the ladies to the end of the pool table he was practicing, on wearing one of her favourite dresses, she looked at him, gave a smile, then walked off, clear as day the whole time.

She had died many years before my cousin had met him, so he got the feeling she'd come to check him out  He described the dress to my cousin who recognised the description and showed him a photo of her wearing it and he recognised it.  If indeed it was her this could be an example so a dead person purposely descending to the physical

[Aerotus]

Surely the obvious answer is they do.. in the form of ghosts.

[David Warner]

but why wouldn't we see this more often in our waking life? you would think that if a spirit or soul has passed on you would see this often?

maybe its the same way - tough enough to project to the astral and finding the right technique. the same would apply from astral to physical.

tvos

[Mikael]

Maybe they dont feel the need to.  if time passes differently in the 'afterlife' they might just think that there's no reason to come back and reassure us because we'll be here in no time, or they might just have a lot to do or dont bother. maybe not all spirits are able to come down.  And if reincarnation is true, a lot of peoples family might be back on earth already.

And anyway, there are a lot of ghost sightings every day, only thing is it doesnt happen with the majority of the population, just go on any ghost website and there'll be lots of accounts of sightings, probably from the same day.

[David Warner]

Mikael,

I wonder if someone ever tried leaving their body in a ghost sighting location that is heavy with activity?

Tvos