on the back of the dark side of the moon t-shirt:
"pink floyd - still first in space"
they arent talking about outer space, they are talking about time/space
a lot of their songs are about time and they, like many others, discovered that there wasnt any. only infinite now
I agree there are many references to what COULD be AP, but it's not definitive that Roger Waters ever really did. It's probably interpreted different depending on the listener. But there are many verses in a lot of their songs that could apply...
"When I was a child I had a fever, my hands felt just like two balloons..."
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an earthbound mystic eye..."
etc, etc, etc.
Anyways I'm sure there are many more. Keep in mind they were huge in the 70's and did countless drugs. A lot of the things they sang about could have been references to acid or heroine trips. In any case, they're still at the top of my best bands list!
What better way to give instructions to OBE than hidden in music?
it is simply genius. the outer shells of their songs are about things like drugs...etc...for example..
everyone thinks 'comfortably numb' is about heroin. it may be in a sense, but the song was not written for that reason. i was at a pink floyd laser light show and off a whim i started a complex thought process. it built up to the floyd APing and now when i hear a song by pf, everything makes total sense. another good example of this is 'high hopes' off of the division bell. whenever they speak of when they were a "child" it refers to when they were not aware of what was out there. i believe they had maybe stumbled upon ap while taking lysergic acid diethylimide, and started to master it. perhaps they broke the time barrier. "ill see you on the dark side of the moon". ps...has anyone ever APed to the dark side of the moon? i bet you there are some interesting things there...[;)]
I wonder how many people still use LSD to Project. I was at an OBE lecture earlier this month, attended by 40-50 people and there were four who talked about their current use and their OBEs.
ive never tried but im sure it would be tough, the mind is very alive and usually doesnt stop thinking or concentrate on one thing while on lsd.
I used many years ago. Had incredible, even cathartic OBEs, but had some horrible experiences with the drug also. One of the things I relish with Projection is the wonderful sense of freedom. It's not that I'm a control freak or anything close, but I love my sense of freedom that continues to grow and I don't like my experiences being controlled by a drug or a person or a group of persons etc. I think that a lot of musicians who projected either with or without drugs, wrote a lot about freedom and sooner or later learned that you have to be free even from the medium, the technique, that once served your purpose,whether it be a drug, a philosophy, a religion, a particular OBE technique etc., if one wants to continue to grow and expand. You might enjoy the Moody Blues also.
I don't know about them being screwed up any more than now. I think a lot of people back then began to exhibit behaviour that wasn't the norm and they may have appeared screwed up. A lot of them actually became pioneers for many many things. Coming out of the closet with other than "norm" behavior, has been beneficial to the individual as well as the society in the long run. Many segments of society today would consider those who seek OBE to be "screwed up", so "screwed up" could be a good thing. As a former therapist, I guess the bottom line for me, was the question, is the behavior harmful to the individual or others? With regards to LSD, the answer is yes, it can be harmful, and I don't encourage it either. But I also don't use scare tactics. I believe in honesty and have to admit that lots of people have had good experiences also. But because of the duality of possible outcomes, one has to seriously ask, is it worth the risk?
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Originally posted by mar10fl
...just listen to a lot of their stuff they are a good band anyways and roger waters is one of the greatest writers ever in rock n roll.
A second that!
I have 31 Pink Floyd Albums, plus 2 Roger Waters albums, I think 3 of which are different versions of the wall; live in Berlin, tribute by somebody, this one had a different cover from the other. I have three other general tributes with a mix of music. I have what looks like an unoffical record of the radio versions. I also have one vinal, given to me by a guy I worked for who knew I loved Floyd.
I have two or three more rare albums to go. Anyone have a few thousand dollars they could give me?
Wait, make that 31+, I just remember I have several in my car =).
LOL anyway, my point is, all of that music, listened to countless times each, and I never once considered it to resemble discriptions of projecting. You learn somthing new everyday.
i also like "tool"
for example the "parabola" clip!
well... maybe im only saying this because of the music hehe.
time for my two cents...
I think comfortably numb was written by roger waters in response to his record company wanting him to medicate himself to take the edge off of his anger and intensity.
They are probably the only band to make it big off the mental illness of an ex-member. Dark Side, the Wall, Wish You Were Here are all based on Syd Barret.
The best albums for tripping are the ones before Dark Side, DSOM drug of choice would be Qualuddes.
I bet one could put together an obe cd with their music, the way some of the music progresses could initiate an obe.
Tomorrow Never Knows
(Lennon/McCartney (The Beatles))
Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream,
It is not dying, it is not dying.
Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void,
It is shining, it is shining.
Yet you may see the meaning of within
It is Being, it is Being.
Love is all and love is everyone
It is Knowing, it is Knowing.
And ignorance and hate mourn the dead
It is believing, it is believing.
But listen to the color of your dreams
It is not leaving, it is not leaving.
So play the game "Existence" to the end
Of the beginning, of the beginning
music is another good way to pass tabu ideas.
many trance musics have speaks about trance (maybe because of drugs.... [8D])
I know one that says "As a child i could walk on the ceiling"...it sugests something.
What about the amazing trance group called Astral Projection? Goa trance on its best (i thinl its goa)
But if you want to know more about hidden messages, search for backmasking on the net, plus some authors like Michael Jackson, Led Zep. etc
Know the Beatles', "Instant Karma?"
Instant Karma was by John Lennon, after the Beatles. It's a good song, but not about AP, IMO.
buddhist music.
you could also talk about "psychedelic" music (what people like to call "trance" (but in my opinion thats wrong))
there is a very known band caled "astral projection"
there are songs called "astral flight" (and one of my favorite song is called "thing" hehehe)
but the conversation can get bigger if you want to talk about this style of music hehe.
well im going to play one of those discs, "goa head 13" (where you can find the songs "astral flight" "thing".)
"Last night I had a feeling..."
There is also a reference to floating some where.
"I was standing in a parking lot, next to an invisible 7-11"
I do not have the particular song by ZZ top, or I would put in the rest of the lyrics. Does anyone else have it? I remember when the song came out I thought "I bet they are talking about astral projection".
That is all I can remember of it. If anyone else has the song, there are other references in it to AP. Would like to hear from others what they were.[:D]
Now that it has been written, it does seem that many of Floyd's songs were about AP. I wonder if they did it consciously with purpose, or just a drug trip.
I have heard that if you start playing Dark Side of the Moon at the exact same second that Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz takes her first step down the yellow brick road, that the music corresponds with the movie.
My Head's in Mississippi by ZZ Top
I'm shufflin' thru the Texas sand,
but my head's in Mississippi.
I'm shufflin' thru the Texas sand,
but my head's in Mississippi.
The blues has got a hold of me.
I believe I'm gettin' dizzy.
I keep thinkin' 'bout that night in Memphis,
Lord, I thought I was in Heaven.
I keep thinkin' 'bout that night in Memphis,
I thought I was in Heaven.
But I was stumblin' thru the parking lot
of an invisible seven eleven.
Where's my head baby?
Somewhere in Mississippi.
Last night I saw a cowgirl.
She was floatin' across the ceiling.
And last night I saw a naked cowgirl.
She was floatin' across the ceiling.
She was mumblin to some howlin' wolf
about some voodoo healin'.
______________________________________
Also, I heard you start Dark Side of the Moon at the roar of the MGM Lion.
kiauma: i don't think thats anything related to the astral hehe
The Floyd - fantastic... any one make Earl's court in 84 (memories indeed). But what of Hawkwind one says. Not as ethereal in the way the Pinks were but still the auld Astral Space trippers seem be just flying along.
Cheers,
S [;)]
"pink floyd - still first in space"
...isn't that a reference to the fact that Pink Floyd's music was the first music to be played in space? I believe it was DSOTM, but I have no idea which mission it was.
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Originally posted by mar10fl
the reason pink floyd was so obsessed with outer space is that they astral projected. there are lots of clues that prove this. sometime, if you have time, listen to the albums 'piper at the gates of dawn' and the best one is 'meddle'.
"a movement is accomplished in six stages, and the seventh brings return" - pertaining to the 7 major dimensions, and when the highest is reached, the time barrier is gone.
"and as i rise above the treetops and clouds..."
just listen to a lot of their stuff they are a good band anyways and roger waters is one of the greatest writers ever in rock n roll.
I have yet another that relates to astral projections!
Can anyone name it before -u- see it???
Catch me as I fall
Say you're here it's all over now
speaking to the atmosphere
No one's here & I fall into myself
This truth drives me into madness
I know I can stop the pain if I will it all away
Don't turn away
Don't give into the pain
Don't try to hide
Though they're screaming u'r name
Don't close u'r eyes
God knows what lies behind them
Don't turn out the light Never sleep never die
I'm frightened by what I see
But somehow I know there's much more to come
immobilized by my fear
And soon to be blinded by tears
I can stop the pain if I will it all away
Anyone???,,, Complexette[;)]
"Evanescence, Whisper"[:)]
Thanks Kiauma,
I guess it is not about AP. I could not remember all the words.
Ok complexette, I give?
(Wouldn't mind seeing a naked cow girl floating across my ceiling).[:D][:D]
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Originally posted by thelou
Thanks Kiauma,
I guess it is not about AP. I could not remember all the words.
Ok complexette, I give?
(Wouldn't mind seeing a naked cow girl floating across my ceiling).[:D][:D]
It's "Evanescence, Whisper"
"And I have no comment on the other!!!"[:)][:D]
(just to make it clear)
to synch up dark side of the moon and the wizard of oz, you start the album at the end of the lion's third roar, ive done this before and it is truly amazing how exact the lyrics/mood of the song/movie go. coincidence? i think not. well lets see what is the significance of the wizard of oz??? hmmm. it was the first color movie ever. have you seen the front of dark side of the moon? very interesting huh. a beam of white light going through a prism and making a full spectrum of color. coincidence? I THINK NOT. the floyd made dark side of the moon so carefully that nothing about it can be a coincidence. now all i need to do is put all of the clues together and i might find something secret in the music....like ive done so many times before.......
I know it is tempting to think that Pink Floyd did this sync on purpose, but there are some good reasons I can think of that it wasn't:
1. The sync works with CDs. When The Floyd made Dark Side in 1973 not only was there no such thing as a CD, virtually no one on the planet had Video Players. Records and tapes of Dark Side existed only, and the obvious flaw with both of them is that you have to physcially turn them over. Even if you didn't, record players and tape decks rarely play accurately. It only takes a few milliseconds of difference for quite a big difference in synced material to build up over say 20 minutes. The point is, when this record was made, there was no technology available to the public to sync the two together. No one had videos, and even if they had have done, the music formats of the time would have been hopeless for syncing. Nor could they know that digital technology would ever be available to succesfully sync them.
In short, no one would have been able to witness this 'deliberate' syncing at the time, and no hint that they could in the future, what point was there in it then?
It is possible to sync in studios of course, they do this all the time, but here is another point:
2. In all the months that Dark Side was recorded, and in all the years that followed, no one ever mentioned there being Oz up on the screen in the studio while Floyd played. Studios are busy, people are in and out all the time, yet not one mention anywhere of anyone who was present having seen Floyd at work syncing the album up to the movie. Add to that the fact that studios are businesses with everything, every hour of studio time and equipment accounted for, then there would be a written record of what went on somewhere. An engineer, tape operator, tea boy anyone would have spoken about it, no one ever has, yet they have plenty to say about what effects were used, who did this and that, details about the recording, but none mention Oz, except to deny it was synced.
3. Pink Floyd have always denied it themselves, David Gilmour recently said: "It's obviously complete rubbish. What are people doing with their lives? I feel a little sad for them. God! It's staggering. but I suppose one should feel complimented."
A little harsh maybe, as they start their own myths by putting backwards messages everywhere, you can hardly blame the public for looking for this kind of stuff when it isn't really there.
If you take any piece of music and dub it without thought onto film you will find parts that seem to match as if they were intended. I have done this many times myself with my own music and been quite surprised at times how several parts can appear to have been deliberatly matched when I know damn well they weren't. I just think the brain likes 'sense' and grasps at anything that appears to make it, so when a word or two happens to occur with an image that fits with them it goes 'bingo'. See enough of them and you start to think it is intentional.
I wandered home through silent streets,
and fell into a fitful sleep, (vibrations)?
escape to realms beyond the night,
dream cant you show me the light,
(serious buzzing musical noise)
ascend a troubled spiral of stair,
a lord of gold confronts me there,
he leads me on light years away,
through Astral lights galactic day,
I see the works of gifted hands,
that graze the strange and wondrous lands,
I see the hand of men arise,
with hungry mind and open eyes,
They left our planets long ago,
the elder race to learn and grow,
their power grows with purpose strong,
to claim the home where they belong,
home to tear the temples down,
home to change!
From RUSH 2112. It sounds like Geddy Lee had an AP and then was given a vision of our ancient past.
Next song,
the sleep is still in my eye,
the dream is still in my head,
I heave a sigh and sadly smile,
and lie awhile in bed,
I wish that it might come to pass,
not fade like all my dreams,
just think of what my life might be,
in a world like I have seen,
I don't think I could carry on,
carry on this cold and empty life,
oh no,
my spirit is alone in the dark's of despair,
my life blood spills over,
It is as if he had seen life from a higher perspective in his obe/dream world and longed for it to be real.
Any comments?[:D][:D]
Thelou
Oh Thank You Great Spirit by Chicago
Pulling myself out of a dead sleep
With the impression of the dream still fresh in my mind
Before I'm even awake, the words, the music were complete
I woke up that mornin'
Feelin' so rested and young
My mind was clear of all the problems
That been hasslin' my head
I couldn't quite understand why
I felt so fine
I felt so free
So beyond it all
As I turned towards the bed
I understood as all came clear
As I turned towards the bed
I understood as all came clear
I saw myself lyin' there
Didn't have a care
Piece of mind was finally mine
Now free to fly
Into the blue sky
Oh great spirit
Fly away
Oh great spirit
Just fly
Fly
Oh fly away
speaking of pink floyd and astral projection-
one night I watched a PF concert on tv-it was just fantastic[8D].
there was one point,when it showed a guy in a hospital bed.he started to 'drive' the hospital bed all over the hospital[:P],then he went onto a runway,and flew it up into the sky[:)].
that morning,I woke up,and the clocks from the song 'time' were going off INSIDE MY BODY! the sounds of the clocks were echoing and bouncing around in me,as if my body was hollow.
then the pitches and speed of the clocks got higher/faster.after a certain point,the pitches got so high I couldn't hear them anymore,and I was buzzing with energy.
then I lifted out of my body,did somersaults around my room,twisted around in the air,and returned to my body.[:)]
pink floyd-the "auditory drug"!
the reason pink floyd was so obsessed with outer space is that they astral projected. there are lots of clues that prove this. sometime, if you have time, listen to the albums 'piper at the gates of dawn' and the best one is 'meddle'.
"a movement is accomplished in six stages, and the seventh brings return" - pertaining to the 7 major dimensions, and when the highest is reached, the time barrier is gone.
"and as i rise above the treetops and clouds..."
just listen to a lot of their stuff they are a good band anyways and roger waters is one of the greatest writers ever in rock n roll.