Taking Physical Limitations with You

[Rastus]

Since you mind won't let go of the limitation, try cheating?  How about the equivalent of an Astral Wheelchair?  I'm thinking something like an energy throne that moves via thought power.  Once your at seperation, construct an energy chair and move onto it(you know the drill of changing chairs)?  I'm thinking you can do this much better than any of us could, since it's so familiar to your everyday life?  It's kind of like how people make Astral swords and armour, or other things.

[upstream]

I've heard blind people can't see in lucid dreams but you do can fly, Sarah. You could fly even with your chair or bed. Eventually you would forget the limiting conception of your body. You just need to find a personal method you could believe in.

Perhaps you could try to imagine your chair becoming weightless and lifting you upward. It would be hard to start but after 1 minutes or so you the chair will lift off. From that point everything is easy.  

If windows are small, as they are so many times in our dreams, just dig a hole into a wall by pointing your finger to it and drawing a circle. Imagine the enclosed part transforming into glass then air or simply push it out of the way.

You could stretch your neck, too by trying to see something above. Your "head" would got more mobility then physical attachment drops away without your notice.

[Selski]

If blind people can have OBEs and see, then why oh why can't I get over my barrier of not being able to get off my chair when I'm having an OBE, due to having muscular dystrophy.

I know I haven't got it in my astral self, but because I don't know how to get off a chair 'as a normal person would', I can't help but experience the dystrophy in my astral legs.

It's driving me bonkers.  I do manage to get out eventually, either by falling onto my hands and knees and crawling away, or by pushing my consciousness away (rather than my astral body) and carrying on from a few feet away.

I know I don't need a second body, but every time I try and shrug off the impression of a second body, I tend to lose the experience (it seems I need a second body at the moment, until I learn not to need it).

I guess becoming a point of consciousness takes a considerable amount of time, because the brain has to interpret it, and at the beginning it can't, so it refuses to remember anything.

My second body has become a bit of a comfort blanket.  I like to drag it around with me, touching things and pushing my hands through walls and so on.  I even licked the window today to see if I could taste!!!  That was odd.

I think it will just take time.  My astral vision took months to sort out.  There are still times when I can't see for toffee, but the further I move away, the better it gets.

Hi ho.  Another astral issue to deal with!

Not a question really, just a bit of a moan!

Sarah