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MilesB

Hello

I had my third almost OBE experience yesterday night and I wanted to see if anyone else has had anything similar happen to them. My body turned invisible???

I was under sleep paralysis and in that limbo like semi conscious state when I knew that as soon as I exhaled the vibrations would come. After I exhaled and the vibrations came (they were very strong), I tried several times to just exhale and let them take me up to the ceiling (I feel like I'm being pulled upward) but each time after I would inhale I would come back down. Well... I gave it one last go, I exhaled and relaxed as much as I could, and I felt like the ceiling was right by the tip of my nose BUT, as soon as I inhaled, I could feel myself going down again.

I was disappointed and decided to try one of the techniques I had heard about to get out of the body, the rope climbing technique. As I attempted to lift my arm up to get it in the proper position, it was extremely difficult! My arm felt quite heavy and tired and it was difficult to lift it up at all. But after this is when things got weird.

When I held my arm up in front of my face to look at it (I guess I had opened my eyes?) I could see right through it!!! It looked like in a sci-fi movie where you can kinda see the edges (where the light is bending around the object) but other than that, I could see right through. I managed to lift up my other arm, it was see through as well! I began to get quite scared at this point and I remember trying to call out to my roommate who was about 4 feet away from me in his own bed. Of course, I couldn't say a thing and just began to breathe harder and harder. I was freaking out but I just had to know, were my legs invisible too? I tried to pull up the sheets that were over my legs, but more sheets were there, I tried again, but more were still there. I kept trying over and over again like it was some kinda nightmare or something. Finally I pulled them off my legs and of course, I could see through my legs as well! This brought me over the edge and I just straight up freaked out. I still couldn't call out to my roommate and so I just started breathing extremely rapidly. Then somehow I just snapped out of it. I felt like I had woken up from a dream (but my eyes were already open?), but I knew that it wasn't a dream. The sleep paralysis was broke, I could move freely again, I held up my arms, and they were perfectly normal.

I just wanted to post this to see if anyone else has had an experience that is similar to this one.

This is only the third time the vibrations have come on for me and I have never been able to actually leave my body completely (I always just feel like I'm being sucked upwards/rolling over but I always end up going back to my body).

blis

I call them my predator arms because they look like the predator with his cloaking device on. I only seem to see them at the the start of spontaneous prejections when I wake up in sp.

I saw a cool picture once that someone drew of their arm like that. I thought it was by summerlander but I cant find it again.

Summerlander

MilesB, you were about to separate into the physical realm. It would have been a Here-Now projection and separation can be extremely difficult here...like you are stuck or something. Sometimes a violent effort to break free is needed. Will yourself out and you may the effort to move...don't imagine movement. Alternatively believe that the ceiling is a giant magnet...sometimes this works.

Btw...you hadn't opened your eyes...you were seeing using your other vision which is still very much elusive. Did what you see look something like this? ...



Kinda shadowy/transparent...unlike the flesh-like dream-body that you encounter in astral projection. The see-through body usually indicates the onset of an OOBE...or what appears to be a here-now physical projection. 8-)

personalreality

Quote from: Summerlander on April 09, 2011, 16:10:52
MilesB, you were about to separate into the physical realm. It would have been a Here-Now projection and separation can be extremely difficult here...like you are stuck or something. Sometimes a violent effort to break free is needed. Will yourself out and you may the effort to move...don't imagine movement. Alternatively believe that the ceiling is a giant magnet...sometimes this works.

Never come across anyone but me who calls it the Here-Now instead of RTZ.

The authors Gavin and Yvonne Frost call the RTZ the Here-Now in a book called "Astral Travel".  It's a good book if anyone is interested. 

I assume it's probably a kind of pagan thing.
be awesome.

MilesB

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Thank you all for the responses.

Quote from: blis on April 08, 2011, 15:26:12
I call them my predator arms because they look like the predator with his cloaking device on. I only seem to see them at the the start of spontaneous prejections when I wake up in sp.

I saw a cool picture once that someone drew of their arm like that. I thought it was by summerlander but I cant find it again.

Yeah I was definitely aware that I was under sleep paralysis. I don't know how to interpret being awake though, because during the experience I felt like I was "awake", and yet when it ended, I felt as if I had just woke up. :?

Actually, the drawing is very similar to what I remember in that my surroundings looked exactly the same as they would have if I was just laying in bed looking around. I think this is why I didn't realize I had separated.

It was just so unexpected, and even though I had read plenty on astral projection, I had never heard of anything like this. Thank you for the help. Also, I did not realize that there were different types of separations.  What causes someone to astral project instead of having a here-now physical projection or vice versa?

djed

Hi Miles, it sounds like you were projected out to your astral body but not completely 'out of body'. so you are seeing your astral hands and legs. Your experience sounds like it is also influenced by dreamstuff.
When you feel paralysis dont panic, and don't try to get out or wake up, just relax and you will then have a better likelyhood of complete projection. Why you are falling down to your body is you probably need to get more energy by learning 'energy raising techniques', like meditation etc..
You are certainly on the right track. Just read more posts on this website and you will learn what is happening to you.
Cheers djed  :-)
I have a dream, a song to sing...d~ d~ d~

Summerlander

Quote from: MilesB on April 09, 2011, 21:35:38
I felt like I was "awake", and yet when it ended, I felt as if I had just woke up. :?

I know exactly what you mean. You were awake so to speak...well, your mind was...while the body lay atonic due to the sleep paralysis mechanism. The body was asleep...not you! I know! It's hard to conceive. When one regains physical awareness upon returning from the phase state, it will feel like waking up plus a distinct sensation of being refreshed and the skin is often cold.

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Actually, the drawing is very similar to what I remember in that my surroundings looked exactly the same as they would have if I was just laying in bed looking around. I think this is why I didn't realize I had separated.

Exactly! This happened to me a few times now. It is not like astral projection (projection to the metaphysical realm) where anomalies are spotted and the perceived body is one which appears to be made of flesh. No...it is not astral projection. This is something else. We ride on the consciousness that pervades the physical realm instead. Everything looks the same. You feel awake. If a body is perceived, it is nothing like the astral one. It is a shadowy or transparent one which, after a while starts to become denser and denser. Sometimes one can go from the physical realm to the metaphysical and the experience becomes an astral projection (just like a typical NDE where you have the OOBE and see the doctors operating on you and then you travel to the non-physical realms where you see strange beings and deceased loved ones)

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It was just so unexpected, and even though I had read plenty on astral projection, I had never heard of anything like this. Thank you for the help. Also, I did not realize that there were different types of separations.  What causes someone to astral project instead of having a here-now physical projection or vice versa?

On Astral Viewers we term them as follows:

1st phase OOBE = Here-Now projection or projection to what appears to be the physical realm. Belief-centric name: Ethereal Projection
2nd phase OOBE = Metaphysical projection or projection to non-material constructs which can emulate the world we know somewhat inaccurately. Belief-centric name: Astral Projection

Don't worry so much about where you will project though. Just focus on succeeding to have an OOBE.

2nd phase is more common and easier to attain. It is possible to wish to visit people in this one and it is very interesting because often the projector will seemingly perceive what someone is doing in the physical world, albeit inaccurately. Most of the time one will see what appears to be in the mind of the visited and when the experience is recounted to them, they will often express shock as the experience makes more sense to them than the projector himself. I love this type of experience because it seems to facilitate some form of visual telepathy where you can access the imagination and dreams of others as well as your own. Lucid dreams dwell in this category in that the same realm is entered differently. 

1st phase is harder and one usually experiences getting stuck in the body, particularly the head and when attempting to separate, it is common to get immediately sucked back in. Sometimes extreme force is required to break free. As you know, there are different degrees of sleep paralysis. Deep SP is where 1st phase usually occurs. Deepening or prolonging the SP state can be hard and can get uncomfortable but don't worry...there is a short cut! Become lucid in a dream really early on and push the content away Bruce Almighty style. When you regain physical awareness, there is a good chance that you will find yourself in a deep state of paralysis. Attempt separation immediately by rolling over and out - DON'T imagine this! Actually DO it as though you are moving physically! Otherwise, really believe that the ceiling is a giant magnet and feel yourself be catapulted out of body...this can often be accompanied by a sound like a stone has just struck the inside of an empty bucket. Movement is also different in 1st phase...more gradual, mouse-trailing or moving as though into frames of space...a tendency to perform mini-teleports as though you can't quite pinpoint where you should be in the physical space that surrounds you. Very unlike 2nd phase where you can pretty much run, walk, glide, fly... Then movement starts to become more fluid in 1st phase. It is my belief that remote viewing belongs in this category even though you never leave the body in such experience.

In fact, I adhere to Kepple's view in that we are actually everywhere, both in and out of body and all-pervading as a consciousness. The feeling of being here and there is all an illusion brought about by where we choose to focus. It is all about focus. where we are consciously...we are unconscious everywhere else. I hope this makes sense.