Hey all its currently 1:10 in the morning here in Colorado and I just had wild memory from earlier in the night when I woke up just now. So I've been half awake half dreaming allllll night since I went to bed 3 hours ago. I remember from earlier that I was awake in my bed and wanted to project to see old memories from early on in my life. (This may have been a dream because I dont intend to have my first projection just to see old memories) but it also may have been real because maybe my intent was a little weird just because I was so tired and half dreaming all night anyway.
But anyway as soon as I had the intent to project to go see old memories I felt HUUUUGe exit symptoms - even stronger than when I've gotten close to projecting in the past. It felt like my whole body was shaking rapidly and all of a sudden I was in the back seat of my moms old van - must have been what felt like 5 years old - driving down Smoky Hill road in my old hometown before I moved. I couldn't see very well. I was looking through tunnel vision in this experience and the things being said in the car I couldn't hear very well. If you can imagine what it would sound like if words came out of someones mouth "blurry." Hope that makes sense. Anyway then I remember after that whole experience I actually did go into a dream which I can't quite remember but I'm sure that the next even after this possible projection was in fact a dream.
Was this a projection or a dream? Or maybe remote viewing? Or a projection in which I projected and later my astral conscious/body flipped into my dream body??
Blurry words are what a 5 yo would hear. The vocabulary is quite small at that age, some words being recognized, the conversation itself would'nt be interpreted.
Your intent created this experience. With no expectations, the process was left in control and did as you intended.
A laid back feeling would have been present at some point before the experience.
Easily missed, did you notice it?
That's the feeling you need to obtain for concious projections.
A laid back feeling? If you mean being incredibly relaxed then yes because I had been half awake and half sleeping all night. But if you mean a laid back feeling like the mindset when you're sitting on a beach on a vacation with no cares then no.
So I felt laid back physically, but didn't have a laid back mindset - or at least don't remember it.
Also, if this wasn't a conscious projection then what exactly was it?
And if it wasn't a conscious projection then why did I feel huge exit sensations?
Thanks for the insight by the way :-)
I want to clarify something based on my own experiences..
Conscious Projection -- Everybody tries to consciously project. When you succeed, you project with your full ego and it is usually an instantaneous thing, possibly with or possibly without vibrations. Vibrations have nothing to do with conscious projection. Vibrations are only symptomatic of your process at hand. Vibrations are not necessary to have a conscious projection experience. Conscious Projection has nothing to do with exit signals/signs...etc..
A conscious projection is when "in the projected state", you have full ego present. You are conscious in every way AFTER the projection occurs. You KNOW it is not a dream, a lucid dream etc. It is as real as if you are walking across the room, or driving your car, or talking to your best friend or sitting on the beach. It is full ego, which means you are aware mentally. You are merely somewhere else and it is REAL in every way. You may or may not have a body while this occurs and you will NOT be asleep when this happens. Let me repeat that. You will NOT be asleep. Your body will be asleep but not your mind. You have complete visual sight of your new surrounding as if you were physically there. You have no choice but to remember it in every detail because you ARE there. It is hard to fathom, until it really happens to you. Remember Bruce saying -- body asleep, mind awake... That is the key to a conscious projection.
Just remember, a conscious projection is not trying to consciously project. A conscious projection is being aware with full ego present AFTER you project. Your ego is conscious. It is a real state. It is not a dream and it is not a remembered dream. You are not asleep. You are in a trance state. You are also aware of being in a mediative state when this happens.
One more thing -- To consciously project, don't try. Be rested, and ONLY try to put yourself in a deep deep trace state and utilize whatever means you decide to use and stick with it. There are many out there on the internet. Find one that works for you. You might choose Bruce's methods or not. It doesn't matter. What matters is that you learn to put yourself in a deep trance state, but not asleep. If you fall asleep, you will lose it. So be rested. The first time you hear the DRONE (the sound) in your ear, you will know it is not tinnitus. It is a different kind of sound. Concentrate on that sound and wrap yourself around it and your penal grand will pop (It is a physical sound) and off you go. This is not an OBE where you float away, although that might occur. This is a full blown conscious projection with full ego present.
I don't know what else to say about it.
Thank you Blossom that really does clear things up. The experience I had must not have been a projection because it felt like I was observing things, not living the experience.
Also, a question about trances. When you find yourself in a deep trance state, do the trance symptoms ever subside and then come back again maybe 5-10 minutes later? And if the trance subsides for a few minutes then does that mean your body woke up and fell back asleep again?
QuoteWhen you find yourself in a deep trance state, do the trance symptoms ever subside and then come back again maybe 5-10 minutes later?
of course that can happen.. With no doubt. But ignore it, keep moving ahead, clear your mind and trudge forth.
I want to give you a
page to explore. The young man that has this site has simplified things
on this particular page. It is not a forum, but an informational
page based entirely on his own experiences.
Explore his entire site of you choose. It's pretty informative but please -- take some info with a grain of salt. I think you will find more answers
here on this forum. My point is --we have to all find our way and find something that works for us. I can only give you what works for me based on where I have been and what has worked for me. But I also am always open to new things. What I do like is "his blueprint" on this particular page.
http://www.elcebillano.com/astral-obe/astral-projection-vs-obe/
The absolute one thing on the above site that I dislike and disagree with is on the home page -- it says if the silver cord is cut we die.... That is such bologna... I have
NEVER even seen a silver cord when out of body. It doesn't mean it is not there, but I have never experienced it. To post something like that instills fear which hinders the OBE process. So ignore that.... It is not true. DO NOT worry about a silver cord breaking free or let anything instill fear in you. Fear is not allowed when learning to OBE. I believe that there is some symbolic connection to the body when OBEing and maybe it's that silver cord that a lot of people experience. In death, logically, there would be no silver cord because the spirit connection to the physical body is gone, but OBEing is not going to kill you and disengage any such symbolic connection.
Remember -->>
OBEing is natural. Controlling it through meditative means is the art to a conscious projection. That is what you are aspiring to learn and do.
Deep meditation while remaining awake. That is your only goal. When you get that down, you will get a slam dunk.
Quoteliving the experience
That is a perfect way to put it... -
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Now to describe the trance state or the deep trance state as it pertains to me.
Your mind-- when you are in a deep trance you feel like you are surrounded by total darkness. Behind your eyelids (for me) there is only blackness or darkness with an occasional spark of 'something', like electricity. There are no jumbled thought patterns here. You feel like you are a point in your mind, in this darkness, just existing. You are not aware of your body, but also not unaware of your body. It is not numb, but it's not your focus any longer. You are in your mind existing for the 'now'. All the bodily ticks, itches etc have disappeared.
You have to reach this point. You can open your eyes but it will end the trance. You are not powerless to stop it. You know you are lying down or sitting in a chair, but you don't think about that. Because you are in a state of bliss. You just ARE. Like the Buddhists say -- I AM.
If you continue, the sound will come and probably only in one ear, if you are like me.
I'll take a look at the site, thank you. I learned from Robert Bruce that the silver cord is what connects the astral body to the physical body so that the astral body still has all the memories and some other things when the mind split effect happens. I also learned that if anything came close to separating the silver cord then my body would pull me back in so it's never been a worry to me :-)
Thank you also for the clarification on trances and meditation. I have heard that sound in the ear many times before - like an intense ringing and it was one of the signs I took that I was in a deep trance.
I keep reading all over the site that the key to projecting is not "pushing" myself out with techniques, but to enjoy the trance, hypnagogia, and just let my body phase out as it's ready. Xanth was actually the one who told me weeks ago to start trying it that way so it's been my newest method. Now I'm really working on keeping myself awake for a longer duration of time.
Oh and by the way I'm still reasonably new here.. How do you post the specific quote you're replying to in that blue box?
It really does seem to come in handy.
Hello Sagar, you will find there are many ways to project. You just have to find one that YOU are comfortable with yourself.
If you look at the Stickies throughout this Forum, you will find what some other members here have found to be successful for them.
I personally have never seen a silver or any color cord attached to me, but I also don't NEED to see a body or any form at all. When I project I have the mindset that I am conscious energy, similar to a orb of energy. Conscious energy doesn't need a physical body in the Astral. It all comes down to change your mindset, you change your reality!
Also, on the quote question. You will see the "Quote" button at the right hand corner of every post made here. Just click that. That will open the quote in a box you wish to respond to. From there you can just backspace/omit or just drag and delete the part of the quote that you don't wish to respond to.
I hope this helps you! :-)