Vibrations vs. Cramping? OBE or not OBE?

[lariluli]

Hello everybody,

I need your help!

For about 4 weeks, I have great interest in OBEs and I'm trying a lot to experiencing one. Until yesterday, I noticed interesting energy waves twice, but only very short und not very intense.

Yesterday something completely different happened. I read about the method of intensifying the high pitch sound in my ear and I tried it out:

I lay in bed, relaxing completely through breathing and not thinking about anything. Then I started to amplify this sound in my ear. It got louder and higher and at some point in time (came pretty fast) I heard a beating voice in my ear and I felt a tensing sensation in my head. My pupils began to flicker and my face began to clench. This grew stronger and stronger and I could not do anything against ist. Finally I succeeded to top the clenching and I was able to move again. I got up to recover from this experience (was kind of scary), went to the bathroom, had a glass of water and then lay down again.

As soon as I started to only think about this sensation, it started again. But this time, I was less afraid and let it all happen. Again I heard this roaring sound and my face started to clench. The rest of my body followed. I was shaking heavily all over und my legs and arms were cramping and moving uncontrollably. This time, my mouth opened and my tongue came out - more and more and I couldn't stop it.

Although the sensation wasn't quite comfortable, I "decided" that this had to be the vibrational state. I was mentally pretty clear and so I tried different ways of leaving the body. I couldn't "see" a rope or anything, but with my tongue stuck out pretty long, I just imagined that it would reach into the outer space and that I would "follow" it. Then, some great pictures of going into space followed in my mind.

All of a sudden, I could not feel the cramping anymore. Everything was calm and silent and I felt extremely light. The sensation was very nice. I felt the urge to lift my upper body and I did it with absolutely no effort. I sat in my bed, opened my eyes and everything looked absolutely "normal". First thing I thought was that I have to be out of body, but then I slowly turned around to check if "I" was still lying in my bed . But I wasn't. So I figured, I just lay back down and get back to normal (which I did). Afterwards, I got up again and thought about it. This experience was a little scary, but also very interesting.

Now here's my questions:
- Was this astral travel or spasticism?
- Does somebody of you know this uncontrollable hefty cramping?
- Should I try this again or better not?
- I do not really believe that I was actually out of body, because everything was so real. But how come it felt *so* easy to lift my upper body (without my hands)? My abs are pretty strong, but even given that, a crunch is crunch! I could only explain this with the extrem muscle tension/cramping I felt, so that this felt so light!?
- Is it possible to be out of body and *not* see the physical body? Or is it possible that I went back into my phsyical body at the moment I tried to turn - without noticing?

Thanks a lot in advance for your ideas - I am very excited!

Regards
lariluli

[Bedeekin]

You were having classic Sleep Paralysis/Vibrational State symptoms.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sleep_paralysis_the_whats_whys_and_wherefores-t38734.0.html

- Was this astral travel or spasticism?

It was Sleep Paralysis followed by a rather smooth transition into full nonphysical consciousness.

- Does somebody of you know this uncontrollable hefty cramping?

Yes... it's a symptom of SP. Body contortions and weird pushing/pulling/stretching/cramping sensations abound while in this state.

- Should I try this again or better not?

Absolutely!!! 

- I do not really believe that I was actually out of body, because everything was so real. But how come it felt *so* easy to lift my upper body (without my hands)? My abs are pretty strong, but even given that, a crunch is crunch! I could only explain this with the extrem muscle tension/cramping I felt, so that this felt so light!?

You are sort of saying one thing then debunking it with another thing.

Projection can feel very very physical... and it appears from the way you describe it that you did indeed project.

- Is it possible to be out of body and *not* see the physical body? Or is it possible that I went back into my phsyical body at the moment I tried to turn - without noticing?

Yes. This is actually more common than seeing your body. Seeing the body is more common when the experience is involuntary or if it's a more focused RTZ projection.

[lariluli]

Hi Bedeekin,

thanks a lot - that helps.

But as for the sleep paralysis: I'm pretty sure I did not fall asleep. I was pretty much awake all the time. Would this still be considered sleep paralysis?

Thanks again!
Uli

[Szaxx]

Do it again and actually get up. It will be as real ad in the physical. Turn on your light ecpecting not to work. It will not work if you're non physical. If so then imagine being made of mist and walk through your door, like a ghost would. This is a way of testing if it's an exit or your really physically awake.

[Bedeekin]

Hi Bedeekin,

thanks a lot - that helps.

But as for the sleep paralysis: I'm pretty sure I did not fall asleep. I was pretty much awake all the time. Would this still be considered sleep paralysis?

Thanks again!
Uli

You don't actually consciously fall asleep during SP... if you were asleep you wouldn't notice it. Your body falls asleep or rather drifts into REM atonia while your awareness stays completely 'aware' of the process.