Pregnancy and OBE

[missym]

Hello! In the beginning of my pregnancy I was able to have out of body experiences. I would spontaneously become aware in my dream and fly until i 'pop' out of my body or wake up in SP and exit that way. The last time Ihad an experience I was 3 months pregnant. I am now over 6 months and can no longer project. It saddens me as I usually have amazing experiences and am fearful that I am losing my level of awareness.. Have any of you been able to project while pregnant? Every time I try, I feel a heaviness at my stomach area and a pain if i try to exit. Any techniques or lifestyle suggestions? Also does anybody have any suggestions as to why pregnancy may affect OBE?

Thanks!

[rezaf]

I don't know the answer to your questions but I suggest leaving AP for after giving birth to your child. AP is safe in most cases but there are bad experiences too and since we don't know how exactly it can affect you and your child's health it's better to be safe than sorry.

As for how it affects AP, my blind guess is that probably pregnancy somehow affected your ren and chong meridians and opened them up and caused the qi to ascend but probably now at this stage your qi just shouldn't go that way and it might interfere with your stomach's qi in going down which would explain the pain in your stomach.


Another reason that I can think of is that in the process of pregnancy and especially after giving birth your body would consume a lot of your yuan qi which is the vital energy source for AP. In that case is would be normal to loose some of your abilities as a result of loosing your vital energy. However if after giving birth you rest enough and gradually condition your body through diet as well as moderate exercise you might be able to restore most of what you have lost in a short time.

[roman67]

I also think that it is better to quit AP for your child because it can affect you and your child's health.

[Pauli2]

I also think that it is better to quit AP for your child because it can affect you and your child's health.

According to what source?

[Xanth]

I also think that it is better to quit AP for your child because it can affect you and your child's health.

That's poppycock! 

Simply not true.

[rezaf]

That's not nonsense. She said " Every time I try, I feel a heaviness at my stomach area and a pain if i try to exit." It would be logical to conclude maybe her body is telling her that's not a good idea at the moment.

There isn't much scientific information available about OBE let alone OBE in pregnancy but if she feels pain then it's not really worth risking it. Furthermore no matter how real or unreal OBE is, the possibility of an emotional shock by having one of those scary experiences might be a real risk in her condition.

[Xanth]

I agree completely that if she's feeling pain that she shouldn't, but it's quite the stretch to assume it has anything to do with projection.   

[Szaxx]

Hi,
The muscles totally relax. Excluding those for life there may be a reason for pain based on this. Normally sleep would intervene and conciousness of the physical would be lost. Phasing keeps your conciousness to the last.
Sleep position may reduce the pain bearing in mind most phase on their back.
Apart from that the spiritual side of things may be of benefit to mother and child. Pre natal meditation classes do exist.

[personalreality]

Could be the hormonal changes in the body.  Might effect your brain, making it more difficult.

[missym]

Thanks for all the replies. Often when I try to exit in SP i feel 'stuck', and I get a sharp pain in my back (it actually hurts ALOT if i keep trying to exit, imagine contractions in your back) but if i fight through it i can 'force' my body to separate and as soon as i exit the pain is gone and i am free to do as i iplease. This is all based on how it feels to force separation. Anyhow, I used to get that pain only occasionally but now anytime i wake up in SP i get it every single time and it's in my lower abdomen. Very scary and I would rather not take any risks..
I was also thinking that maybe this has to do with my consciousness level. I used to read a ton of books about consciousness and meditation, chakras, awareness, etc. and was constantly opening my mind to new ideas, thoughts, etc. and lately my life has changed so much i find myself getting sucked into movies and generally day-to-day living. I never, ever watched movies or TV before as I was always reading, sketching, writing, performing, and working on my skills. Do you think it has anything to do with this? I really feel my mind is closing and I am living too much in my thoughts these days. I feel very unhealty and really need to get back on track to doing what i love to do - reading, writing, sketching, music, etc.

[rezaf]

You know there is a reason that for many centuries people who want to focus on a spiritual life would rather forget about getting involved in daily life, family, etc and would go to remote places to become monks.  However choosing other paths in life doesn't mean one can't pursue spirituality and self growth. Don't be afraid of changes in your life. Whatever happens in our life is a chance to test ourselves, adapt, learn and grow. I don't know if it's your first baby but if it is your first time then you should be prepared to sacrifice a lot of your time and energy for your baby. This is a great challenge and could teach you many things about patience and making the best use of your time for pursuing self growth. So be patient with your life and focus on one thing at a time. Right now your focus should be your child and instead of AP maybe you can learn some forms of meditation  recommended for pregnancy.

[Boom]

Actually I've read some accounts where Astral Projection whilst pregnant has provided a means for the mother and child to connect in a spiritual sense and communicate. Which can only be a good thing if its true!