problem manifesting in projection

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mindflood

latley iv been having these morning projections/lucid dreams where i end up in my room. The problem is I am not able to manifest anything or change my enviromment. I am able to warp somethings like an adoobe photoshop program if i focus on them but I do not have much freedom. I noticed that while im in these i sometimes if not all the time have an awareness of my body sleeping. I thought maybe if I lost that awareness I would have more power to manifest.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE BASIS OF A WORLD WITH-OUT!?

"how long shall I be with you" -Gospel of Matthew

Szaxx

Hi,
It may simply be you are too close to your physical body. The control is limited if close and being snatched back is very common.
Get away tens of metres at least then you can deepen yourself then morph things with better success.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

proyect_outzone

If you got problems with the modifying or influencing of the environment, try out following:

QuoteRemoval of limitations of the ability, to influence the environment, during the out of body experience: If a object does during the concentration not, what one wants, one can use a trick. One moves the finger or the arm, while one concentrates (like a magician in a movie). This movement supports the concentration and makes the influencing easier.

Xanth

That's fine.  Just accept it and enjoy the experience in a different way.

You don't always need to control everything.  :)

roman67

That's the best method Proyect. I agree with you.

Bedeekin

Quote from: Xanth on October 29, 2012, 23:02:02
That's fine.  Just accept it and enjoy the experience in a different way.

You don't always need to control everything.  :)

This is actually very sound advice.

Controlling an OOBE is like play acting... you are missing the important and objective stuff that is useful. Trust me.

mindflood

Quote from: proyect_outzone on October 29, 2012, 22:14:47
If you got problems with the modifying or influencing of the environment, try out following:


I see, use my body. Ive tried that before, i thrusted my handed forward with my fingers tensed as if i had telekinesis and that helped me warp an object.

Robert Bruce said a way you can tell an astral projection from a lucid dream is that you would not be able to manifest in an astral projection. I guess I had the expectations that I would be able to manifest and should try just to ground myself and stay present.
ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT THE BASIS OF A WORLD WITH-OUT!?

"how long shall I be with you" -Gospel of Matthew

Lionheart

 Allow it to happen. There is likely a reason this is occurring. The NPR is like a gigantic school. Once you have learned one lesson, another one appears. Just when you think you have it down and things are going normal, something changes!  :-)