Problems with Consciousness AP – Please help

[ralphm]

Have you tried waking in the early morning? My experiences are pretty similar to yours, except I have projected a couple dozen times but then half the time i just can't see anything or move much. however it does seem to improve over time but sometimes it seems too damn slow!
About the middle of the night stuff-I just wake, go to the bathroom, do some energy stuff, fall asleep, the wake while projecting.I think doing this bypasses some of our fears around obe's, but maybe it accounts for lack of control since there is dream imagery going on too. I know other people have written their formulas, so if you could use the search function on this site to find them.

[Patty]

What have you tried to make the pressure go away? you can probably modulate it into different things if you hit on the right approach. Frank uses his energy hands to 'massage' specific points in his head, you could try that.  Or try various imagery around it, like imagine a drain for the pressure to go down, or a tunnel might be an interesting choice for the pressure to go through ---

It sounds like you are looking for a certain type of OBE and are dissatisfied with whatever has happened so far. My best advice is to look for what is positive with your experiences to date, maybe journal them in a summary of what you have learned. Then spend time thinking about what might be causing a roadblock.

I often find that I make incremental progress if I spend time really trying to remove my ego, my expectations, my desires from the experience. The more I am able to put the experinec in the hands of a good and higher power, with trust, the more moving the experience is. Of course some believe this will be a bad idea, so just consider it a suggestion.

Good luck,

Patty

p.s. I haven't reached my goal of what I look for in OBE either - though I am thrilled with the limited progress that I see.  So others advice may be much better!

Patty

[Vertigo]

Hi every one,
I am training EP/AP for like 10 months.
In that time I had like 8 projections.
All of them were not controllable – I mean, I don't have Consciousness AP, every time I'm trying to project I do all the list, relaxation, concentration and the rest but always I get stuck in last phase were I should project – I don't feel my body, my brain is clear and silent and all the symptoms that should lead to AP – still nothing – only when I get tired waiting I'm rolling over and lie on my belly, just focusing on one spot and only then I some times project.

Another thing, at the beginning of every AP session I get this pressure in my four head, where the third eye is located and I cannot make it go away for some time.