Product Designed To Induce Astral Projection

[aurumsolis]

Link deleted by moderator. Advertising is forbidden on the forum.

[David Warner]

interesting....

how long have you been at projecting and the experiences were induced by this? how many experiences have you had w/wo this product?

please advise!
tvos

[kailaurius]

What about the Tesla Purple Energy Shield also adverstised on the same site?  From reading the information between the 2 devices the Tesla Purple Energy Shield appeared to be just as effective if not more than the Hyperdimensional Oscillator.  Do you know if anyone has had any success with the purple device?

I'm already having pretty good success with the lucid dreaming training I'm undergoing right now, but I also like looking for devices or methods that could "temporarily" help speed the progress.  I stress temporary because I don't like to use such devices permanently.  I only try to use them as training wheels then put them away once I have become well trained enough to easily perform lucid dreaming and astral projection on my own.

Anyway, please let us know if you or anyone else has anymore feedback from the oscillator or the purple device.  Thanks. 

[mrloki]

bah...projecting is an ability built into ourselves, you dont need some device that they want you to spend money on only to find out it doesnt work later on =-)

[David Warner]

There are certain aids that help and resonate with us to guide us to projecting. I can't deny that I listened to Barry Konovic subliminal tape 24/7, or read as many OBE author books, tried working with crystals, etc. Can these be usefull tools "yes" but should be used lightly and not as a dependency.

One thing that I did in self-discovery is that I had the spirit inside me to project and been the luckiest person in the world.

Nothing wrong in checking out new technologies for guidence. Just don't make it a crutch.

tvos

[Skeletor]

mrloki speaks the truth.  if you want a projection aid, there are plenty of things you can use for free.  but projection is an inherent ability and paying for something that may or may not help seems foolish.

[kiwibonga]

Guys, you'll never receive a response because they're just spamming some shady new age shop...

[catmeow]

The Hyper Dimensional Resonator?  Keeps popping up on this board.  It's just a complete con.  Nobody understands the physics of astral projection so  by definition nobody knows how to design an electronic device which will produce AP.  Maybe somebody stumbled on something by accident but I really doubt it.  Much more likely that somebody just stumbled on a great con. The schematics I've seen for the HDR are laughable.  Forget it.  If it worked for anyone on this board then that person could achieve AP without it anyway.

[EqualThoughts]

i have also stumbled on a website that seems to suggest their products will aid in AP.   http://www.magneurol.com/benefits_astralprojection.html
it sounds crazy i have not tried it.

[kiwibonga]

These products do truly work, but it's only because they are placebos... Most of the projection techniques you find in books are also very placebo-like -- auto-suggestion triggers the projection, the actual exit method is just there to occupy your conscious mind.

The question is -- should we keep on trying to find a "true" systematic projection method, or should we just keep on creating placebos, which have the highest success rate?

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

As I said earlier, there are a lot of gizmos that can aid and assist with a obe. There is nothing wrong with that at all. But also do realize, that the fire comes from within to pratice, read, communicate, educate oneself to project.

Think about crystals, hyperdimensional oscillator, pills, books, bgwen, hemisync are all devices to guide you into the state. From there, its how the person learns to facilatate and condition themshelves w/o the aid.

I am weary about devices that claim, or magical pills that has a $$ that states "instant" results. Hard work, educating yourself, punching the time clock and waiting in line is the true reward to spirituality.

I write from results, experience, and have given to the office.

Just keep a open mind and remember what you put into it.

Tvos

[catmeow]

Just remember guys, if a new member appears, posts just a couple of times and then starts plugging gizmos from his own new-age website, there's very likely to be $$$$$ motive.  Don't be fooled.  If you're going to plug, then you need to be on this site a little longer than just half a dozen posts and enter into a relationship of trust with the board members.  Even then, it's strictly against board policy.  All of aurumsolis' posts plug devices from his own web site.

[David Warner]

true.. never thought about that..

its still good conversation to collaborate with the board for people just starting out, or even for the experienced to look at other products of "possiabilty". just imagine if there was a magical pill that could help you project everday... i'll be hitting nirvana all the time..

tvos

[catmeow]

I agree, which is why I think it would be a bit mean and in fact counter-productive to ask the mods to remove aurumsolis' posts.  There may be something of interest in his website to board members, but remember that he is in fact advertising!