Out of control sensations...

[ralphm]

You just have to keep trying, hopefully the sensations will be less extreme. I went around the extreme stuff by waking in the night/early morning and trying to project. Seems like the part of your mind that makes a big deal of this stuff is on vacation.

[fredhedd]

i remember feeling  similar feelings when i first started and still do sometimes.  are you sure you are physically relaxed all of the way and calm?   and aer you sure you are familar w/ each of these stages to reckognize them for what they are ?  if you know exactly what's going on each time then it should lessen any fear or hesitation you have from progressing.

[MartyD]

Well i'd only been practicing for a couple of days and as you can imagine it came as a bit of a shock. I found the Treatise last night gonna mull it over, did a bit of reading last night. You right i'm finding out i'm not sure of all the stages. Anyway, thanks!

-Martin-

[Lysear]

wow sounds like you'll be pretty good at it. i have been practising on and off for 3 months and I just dont get anywhere. Whats your technique?

[MartyD]

Well i've always been able to relax my body a fair amount just by thinking about it. It's hard to explain but I can create a sensation of heaviness over my body just by imagining that i am heavy, and this helps me a bit. But if I was honest you could say i've cheated a little aswell.

I've been using a program that helps quiet the mind and can give you the focus you need to bring about projection, but I don't like to use this program often coz I feel like i'm cheating, or not earning my ability to project. But it was using this program last night that I managed to bring about the vibrations.

The good thing is though is that if you do have an active mind (I have a very active mind, never stops), the odd thought here and there doesn't seem to intefere with my attempts, well not as much as it would when i'm practising without the program. But like I said I blew my projection by losing my nerve as the vibrations came, and I allowed my thoughts to run wild to stop it from happening.

As for the actual projection technique, this is one thing I have to master because I find my patience is a bit thin and I seem to switch techniques without thinking about it. I went through the rope, imagining I was floating above myself and trying to shift my conciousness to that, trying to create a rocking sensation etc...

What finally brought about the vibrations though was the feeling in my forehead as if something was opening up, a dull sensation, which I assume is my brow chakra becoming active. It was concentrating on this and the expanding blackness I could see in front of me which gave me a sensation of moving up really fast. The blackness seems to to be constantly coming at me, as if i'm moving forward, so this was also very useful to create the going up feeling.

All in all it was quite pleasent, even the small vibrations, but the thought of actually acheiving what i'm aiming for so soon scared me stupid.

-Martin-

[jilola]

Yeah, the sensations tend to ease over time.
Mine have actually vanished almost completely and I still haven't had a conscious projection.
I may have gone overboard with calming my mind.

Relaxing is easy for me as well. All I have to do is to sort of feel my muscles and tendons melt and feel heavy

2cents

joun

[Lysear]

just out of interest what was the program you used?


          lysear

[MartyD]

The program I use is Brainwave Generator. Alot of people dont think this works, can't blame them, but it works for me so I ain't complaining.

http://www.bwgen.com/bwgen31.exe

I can't tell you word for word how it works coz I just ain't that smart, but it works by generating frequencies that we can't normally hear. For example, and don't quote me on this coz it could be crap, but the best frequencies for AP is somewhere between 4hz and 7hz (low theta to high theta). 0.5hz - 4hz is the delta stage (mega deep sleep).

Apparently gamma sound waves work to but i'm happy using the thetas to help me practice. Anyway, like I said I don't like to use it to often but it's certainly helped me on my way. The problem? If you really want to use it you have to register the product to import the frequencies I use. You can still get the get the sharware by going to the above link, its got a few frequencies too it.

Up to you though if you see fit to use it, it's helped me.

-Martin-

[social]

I noticed myself that in my first several attempts the "sensations" were almost overwhelming.

Although now they are practically non existant. I can only percieve them if I try to. I still have yet to achieve a conscious projection. My life has been insanely busy as of late with work and other such drags.

You should consider reading up on RB's "new engery waves". If you haven't yet, that is.  He mentions things that might help to explain what your feeling. If I recall, and my understanding was right, the "sensations" are restiance in the flow of energy. The more you feel the sensations, the less you will feel them, your energy body provides less resitance as the pathways clear and become stronger.

trying to help

[MartyD]

It just so happens that i've just finished having another go, got the vibes but this time not a bizarre heart beat and only a small feeling in my forehead. But the vibes went

[Lysear]

over the past few days I've read numerous responses about this brainwave generator most being positive, is it possible that this is an extemely important step forward in projection or is it just me getting ove excited?

             Lysear

[MartyD]

Maybe, but it can't be a bad thing getting excited coz obviously you believe it'll work, and thats the kind of attitude you need!

[MartyD]

Good link, thanks for that!!!

-Martin-

[MartyD]

I pretty new to Astral Projection but yesterday I manged to get the vibrations, until my heart almost blew out my chest and firmly planted itself on the ceiling. I'm also having trouble with a mad rush of nerves and excitement that makes my stomach feel like it's going to pop everytime I get close, which obviously doesn't help my projection attempts.

I've heard it's to do with the chakras but I can't seem to control it. I've only been practicing for four days and didn't expect this much this soon. So I was just wondering if anyone had the same problem and if they'd be good enough to tell me how they got round it. Cheers!

-Martin-